Cylinder rod charge density (Gauss Law)

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field between the inner radius \(a\) and outer radius \(b\) of a uniformly charged infinite cylindrical shell using Gauss's Law. Participants are exploring the implications of charge distribution and geometry on the electric field calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to find the enclosed charge and calculate the electric field using Gauss's Law. There are questions regarding the correctness of the derived expressions for the electric field, particularly concerning the dependence on the inner radius \(a\) and the uniform charge distribution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their results. Some have provided clarifications on the geometry and charge distribution, while others are still exploring different interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of explicit information about the length of the cylindrical rod and the specific charge distribution, which has led to confusion among participants. The original problem statement has been expanded upon to clarify the scenarios for different radial positions.

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Homework Statement


there's a cylinder rod inner radius a outer raidus b.we want to find electric field between a and b,like point r (or radius r) a<r<b.

Homework Equations


Gauss Law

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[/B]I am trying to find Q enclosed but something make me confused.I am taking an integral and I found ##E=\frac {Q} {2π(b^2-a^2)ε_0}## is this correct ?
 
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Your result for E doesn't look correct.

The problem doesn't give any information about the length of the cylindrical rod or how the charge is distributed inside the rod.

When using Gauss' law, clearly state the geometry of the Gaussian surface and show your steps in arriving at the result.
 
Its length is infinite and charge distribution is uniform.I found now ##E=/frac {pr} {2e_0}##
 
I was thinking it was wrong too cause it was looking so weird.
 
If last result is true I ll be happy
 
Arman777 said:
Its length is infinite and charge distribution is uniform.I found now ##E=/frac {pr} {2e_0}##
That makes no sense. Did you mean ##E=\frac {\rho r} {2e_0}##? ##E=\frac {\pi r} {2e_0}##? Or...?
 
haruspex said:
That makes no sense. Did you mean ##E=\frac {\rho r} {2e_0}##? ##E=\frac {\pi r} {2e_0}##? Or...?
oh sorry I typed from my phone . ok İts ##E=\frac {\rho r} {2e_0}##
 
Arman777 said:
oh sorry I typed from my phone . ok İts ##E=\frac {\rho r} {2e_0}##
I think that would right for a=0. Clearly it must depend on a though (e.g. consider r=a).
 
I ll share the whole question to make things clear.Its confusing like this
 
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Cylindrical Shell: Consider an infinite cylindrical shell with inner radius a, outer radius b and uniform volume charge density ρ. Consider a point at a distance r from the central axis. Compute the electric field at this point
(a) when the point is inside the cavity of the cylinder (r < a),
(b) when the point is within the shell (a < r < b),
(c) and when the point is outside (b < r).
(d) Sketch the E vs r graph. (Here E is the radial component of the electric field.)
 
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  • #12
I ll share my steps
 
  • #13
I changed my approach.

Lets take a length ##L## horizontal so Total Flux will be ##E(2πrL)##

##Q_{enc}=\int ρ \, dv##
##dv=π2rLdr##
##ρ## is constant so
##Q_enc=ρ\int_f^g π2rL \, dr##
What should be ##f## and ##g## ?
##f=a , g=r## ?
 
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Arman777 said:
##f=a , g=r## ?
Yes.
 
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ok thanks.
 

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