DE Exactness: (2x+y)dx-(x+6y)dy=0?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Eastonc2
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining whether the differential equation (2x+y)dx-(x+6y)dy=0 is exact. Participants are exploring the definitions and conditions that characterize exact differential equations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to identify the correct forms of M(x,y) and N(x,y) and are questioning the definitions of exactness in this specific case. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of N(x,y) and its implications for exactness.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the definitions of M and N, while others are exploring the implications of these definitions on the exactness of the differential equation. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being examined.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion stemming from the definitions of M and N, as well as the consideration of homogeneity in the functions involved. Participants are encouraged to explore the relationships between the functions and their partial derivatives.

Eastonc2
Messages
19
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


determine whether the DE, (2x+y)dx-(x+6y)dy=0, is exact

Homework Equations


i understand how to determine if they are exact, I just don't understand this specific instance. for my case, M(x,y)=2x+y, but would N(x,y)=(x+6y), or (-x-6y)?

The Attempt at a Solution


using my first N(x,y), the equation is exact, however, using the second, they are not exact.

Just need clarification at this point
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Hi Eastonc2! :smile:

Your N(x,y)=(-x-6y).
That is how it matches the definition of an exact DE.

But how did you determine that it was exact with the first N(x,y)?
Because I don't think it is.
 
ah, my fault, M(x,y)=2x+y

i was looking at the equation above it for that first part. the second part is correct though.
 
Ah, now I see your dilemma.

To make sure, perhaps you should try to find a function of which the partial derivatives match with M(x,y) and N(x,y).
Can you find such a function?
 
Have you studied the case where M and N are homogeneous of the same degree, as these are?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K