Definite integral (e^x) *(x-1)^n=16-6e find n.

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Homework Statement



this is definite integral question.
lower limit 0 ; upper limit 1 ; integral (e^x)(x-1)^n = 16-6e
find n (n<6)
here e is euler constant value around 2.7 (irrational)
hope you understood.

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as much as first year student know.

The Attempt at a Solution



tried many substitutions like x-1 = t and some others.
replaced x by 1-x and tried integration by parts. and many more.
but failed:cry:
 
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Use integration by parts and you will be able to write the integral in summative notation
 
icystrike said:
Use integration by parts and you will be able to write the integral in summative notation[/color]
does not understand.
can you please explain it more briefly.
thanks for reply.
 
Integrate by parts:
[tex] \int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n}dx=\Bigg[ e^{x}(x-1)^{n}\Bigg]_{0}^{1}-n\int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n-1}dx=(-1)^{n}-n\int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n-1}dx[/tex]
If your original integral is [itex]I_{n}[/itex], then you have a recurrence relation:
[tex] I_{n}=(-1)^{n}-nI_{n-1}[/tex]
 
hunt_mat said:
Integrate by parts:
[tex] \int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n}dx=\Bigg[ e^{x}(x-1)^{n}\Bigg]_{0}^{1}-n\int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n-1}dx=(-1)^{n}-n\int_{0}^{1}e^{x}(x-1)^{n-1}dx[/tex]
If your original integral is [itex]I_{n}[/itex], then you have a recurrence relation:
[tex] I_{n}=(-1)^{n}-nI_{n-1}[/tex]

that's called answer thanks!
can you tell me how to use itex tex tags.
 
To open the tex just do tex in square brackets [ tex] (but without the spaces). To close of the tex do [ /tex ] but take off the spaces. The same with itex, which is in-line tex.
 
As was pointed out:
[tex] I_{n} \equiv \int_{0}^{1}{(x - 1)^{n} \, e^{x} \, dx}[/tex]

[tex] I_{n} = \left. (x - 1)^{n} \, e^{x} \right|^{1}_{0} - n \int_{0}^{1}{(x - 1)^{n - 1} \, e^{x} \, dx}[/tex]

[tex] I_{n} = (-1)^{n - 1} - n I_{n - 1}[/tex]

[tex] I_{0} = \int_{0}^{1}{e^{x} \, dx} = e - 1[/tex]

In general: [itex]I_{n} = A_{n} + B_{n} e[/itex]. The recursion gives:
[tex] A_{n} = (-1)^{n - 1} - n A_{n - 1}[/tex]
[tex] B_{n} = -n B_{n - 1}[/tex]
with the initial conditions [itex]A_{0} = -1[/itex] and [itex]B_{0} = 1[/itex]. You need to find such an n that [itex]A_{n} = 16[/itex] and [itex]B_{n} = -6[/itex].
 
The general solution to the B recursive relations is:
[tex] B_{n} = (-1)^{n} n![/tex]