Definition of a complex matrix

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The discussion revolves around the definition and properties of complex matrices, particularly in relation to real matrices and Hermitian matrices. Participants explore the implications of the term "may" in the definition of complex matrices and question the relationships between different types of matrices.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss whether a matrix can be considered complex if it contains only real numbers. There are inquiries about the relationship between Hermitian matrices and complex matrices, as well as the implications of these relationships in the context of linear maps.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the definitions and properties of complex and Hermitian matrices. Some participants provide clarifications and affirmations regarding the relationships between these sets of matrices, while others express confusion about specific expressions involving linear maps.

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There are references to external definitions and statements that may contribute to the confusion, such as the characterization of Hermitian matrices as a vector space over the real numbers rather than the complex numbers. Participants also mention specific mathematical expressions that require careful consideration of the types of matrices involved.

_Andreas
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http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ComplexMatrix.html" states that a complex matrix is "a matrix whose elements may contain complex numbers". My question is what the "may" means. Could a matrix be complex even if its elements does not contain any complex numbers?
 
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Real matrices are contained in the set of complex matrices. In that sense they are also complex. That's the only sense in which they are complex. A real matrix is, uh, real.
 
Dick said:
Real matrices are contained in the set of complex matrices. In that sense they are also complex. That's the only sense in which they are complex. A real matrix is, uh, real.

Thanks. I have a follow-up question if you don't mind: does this mean that an element in the \mathbb{R}-vector space Herm_n(\mathbb{C}) (the set of all hermitian n x n-matrices) is also an element in \mathbb{C}^n?
 
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If you mean is the set of all hermitian matrices a subset of the set of all complex matrices, of course it is. Why do you need to ask?
 
Dick said:
If you mean is the set of all hermitian matrices a subset of the set of all complex matrices, of course it is. Why do you need to ask?

Because I'm trying to solve a problem in which there is an expression AB, where A is a \mathbb{C}-linear map A:\mathbb{C}^n\rightarrow\mathbb{C}^n and B \in \msbox{Herm_n}(\mathbb{C}). If B doesn't also lie in \mathbb{C}^n, I can't make sense of the expression.
 
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Adding to my confusion was this statement on Wikipedia:
The Hermitian n-by-n matrices form a vector space over the real numbers (but not over the complex numbers).
 
_Andreas said:
I can't make sense of the expression.
What's wrong with reading it as simply being the product of linear operators?
 
_Andreas said:
Because I'm trying to solve a problem in which there is an expression AB, where A is a \mathbb{C}-linear map A:\mathbb{C}^n\rightarrow\mathbb{C}^n and B \in \msbox{Herm_n}(\mathbb{C}). If B doesn't also lie in \mathbb{C}^n, I can't make sense of the expression.

We have agreed Herm_n(C) does lie in the set nxn complex matrices, right? It's not a vector space over C because if you multiply a hermitian matrix by i it's no longer hermitian. But I don't see why that needs to concern you.
 
Dick said:
We have agreed Herm_n(C) does lie in the set nxn complex matrices, right?

Yes.

Dick said:
It's not a vector space over C because if you multiply a hermitian matrix by i it's no longer hermitian.

Very helpful! Thanks.

Dick said:
But I don't see why that needs to concern you.

I've actually solved the problem, and you're right, it was unnecessary for me to be concerned by it.

Thanks again for your help.
 

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