Deltafunktion of 4-vectors for energy and momentum coversation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a Compton scattering problem involving the delta function of 4-vectors related to energy and momentum conservation. Participants are examining the relationship between different 4-vector components and their implications for the delta function representation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the dimensionality of the delta distribution and its implications for the problem. There is a discussion about splitting the delta function and integrating over specific components. Some participants question the notation used and suggest clarifying the representation of 4-vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and suggestions for checking dimensions and using specific properties of the delta function. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding notation, and participants are working through the implications of their approaches without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of dimensional analysis in the context of delta functions and the need to clarify the notation used for 4-vectors. There is an emphasis on ensuring that both sides of the equation being examined are dimensionally consistent.

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Homework Statement


for a compton-scattering-problem, i want to show that:

\delta(p_{10}+k_1-p_0-k)=p_0\delta(\underline{k}_1(\underline{p}+\underline{k})-\underline{k}\underline{p})


Homework Equations


the momentum- and energy-conversion-law for two particle scattering.
\underline{p}+\underline{k}=\underline{p}_1+\underline{k}_1

relations of kinematic-invariants
:
\underline{k}\underline{p}=\underline{k}_1\underline{p}_1
\underline{k}_1\underline{p}=\underline{k}\underline{p}_1
\underline{k}_1(\underline{p}+\underline{k})=\underline{k}\underline{p}

here \underline{p} denotes the electron 4-vector \underline{p}=\{p_0,\overline{p}\}, the same for k the 4-vector describing the photon \underline{k}=\{k_0,\overline{k}\}. no subscript and subscribt 1 denote initial and scattered particles respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution



do i have to use: \delta(f(x))=\frac{1}{|f'(x_0)|}\delta(x-x_0)? but how?
 
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First, it is always a good idea to show explicitely the dimensionality of the \delta distribution, so you want to show
\delta^4(p_{10}+k_1-p_0-k)=p_0\delta^3(\underline{k}_1(\underline{p}+\underline{k})-\underline{k}\underline{p})
Then you already see that both sides are of different dimensionality, so on the right side probably someone integrated without telling you. I would try splitting the \delta distribution, and integrating over \delta(p^0_{10}+k^0_1-p^0_0-k^0) using the on-shell relation \vec{p}² - (p^0)² = m², and similar for the k particle. If your relation is correct, this should work out after some algebra.
 
first of all: thanks for you answer! the hint to check the dimensions was right. i guess my notation is a bit confusing. so i will choose a new one here in the solution:

\underline{p}=\{p^0,\vec{p}\} and
\underline{k}=\{k^0,\vec{k}\}, where \vec{p} and \vec{k} are the 3-momentum vectors of the electron and the photon respectively. after the scattering we have:
\underline{p}'=\{p^0',\vec{p}'\} and
\underline{k}'=\{k^0',\vec{k}'\}.
so the momentum-energy-law reads:
\underline{p}+\underline{k}=\underline{p}'+\underline{k}'now one can see that both sides of the equation that i want to show are of dim=1.

\delta^{(1)}(p^0'+k^0'-p^0-k^0)=p^0\delta^{(1)}(\underline{k}'(\underline{p}+\underline{k}) -\underline{p}\underline{k}), that is because on the LHS are only the 0-componets, and on the RHS we have scalar-products of 4-vectors, which are also 1-dimensional. now i didnt had to integrate, but to use the formula:

\delta(ax)=\frac{1}{|a|}\delta(x)

in this case p^0=\frac{1}{|a|}. so left to show:

p^0'+k^0'-p^0-k^0=\frac{1}{p^0}(\underline{k}'(\underline{p}+\underline{k}) -\underline{p}\underline{k}) which works out thus the RHS can be written as:

\frac{1}{p^0}(\underline{k}'(\underline{p}+\underline{k}) -\underline{p}'\underline{k}')=\frac{1}{p^0}(k^0'p^0+k^0'k^0-k^0'p^0'-\vec{k}'\vec{p}-\vec{k}'\vec{k}+\vec{k}'\vec{p}')=\frac{1}{p^0}(k^0'p^0+k^0'k^0-k^0'p^0'-\vec{k}'(\vec{p}-\vec{k}+\vec{p}'))

with use of k^0k^0'=p^0p^0' , k^0'p^0'=k^0p^0
\vec{p}+\vec{k}-\vec{p}'=\vec{k}' and ( \vec{k}')^2=(p^0)^2 we get the result.
 
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Very good! So I also got confused by your notation :)
 

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