DeltaG and DeltaA calculation for heating a gas at constant volume

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in Gibbs Energy (Delta G) and Helmholtz energy (Delta A) for an ideal gas being heated at constant volume. The original poster describes a scenario involving 0.1 mol of gas heated from 20 °C to 120 °C, with an initial volume of 4.0 L, and expresses uncertainty regarding the calculations involved in the context of changing temperature.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the differential forms of Gibbs and Helmholtz energies but is unsure how to handle the temperature change in the calculations. Some participants question the nature of the problem, seeking clarification on whether it is a homework problem or a self-study exercise.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the problem's context and the original poster seeking guidance on the calculations. There is an indication that some participants are providing suggestions related to the relevant equations for Gibbs and Helmholtz energies.

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There is a mention of the gas type being potentially mono-atomic or diatomic, which may influence the calculations. The original poster notes that they are working from an old textbook, which may not align with current conventions or examples typically found in more recent resources.

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Summary:: Gibbs and Helmholtz energies calculations for heating an ideal gas at constant volume

I am solving a problem involving an ideal gas that undergoes several chained changes of state. One of the steps asks to calculate the change in Gibbs Energy (DeltaG) and Helmholtz energy (Delta A) for 0.1 mol of the gas being heated from 20 oC to 120 oC at constant volume. The initial volume is 4.0 L. I am stuck here.

In natural variables dG is given by dG=VdP-SdT. The first term is easily calculated by replacing V by nRT/P and integrating.The second term is what I don't know what to do with it. Every textbook that I have checked so far have examples where T is constant so the second term is not an issue but not in this problem. The same problem is also found with Helmholtz energy: dA=-PdV - SdT. The first term is zero because dV=0 but then I am stuck again with the second term.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Is this a homework problem?
 
Hello. Not really. It is a problem that I am solving on my own from an old textbook in Thermodynamics.
 
zacc said:
Hello. Not really. It is a problem that I am solving on my own from an old textbook in Thermodynamics.
Well, anyway, homework-like problems are considered homework problems, so I am moving it to a homework forum.

Can you please provide an exact word-for-word statement of the problem?

Is the gas mono-atomic, diatomic, or something else?

You should be using ##\Delta G=\Delta H-\Delta (TS)## and ##\Delta A=\Delta U-\Delta (TS)##
 
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