Demodulation of NTSC YIQ Signal

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The discussion revolves around the demodulation of an NTSC composite video signal into RGB format. Participants explore the complexities of the colorburst signal's phase relationship with the I and Q signals, as well as different demodulation methods, particularly the R-Y/B-Y approach.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the phase relationship of the colorburst signal with the I and Q signals, questioning how demodulation can occur without crosstalk.
  • Another participant notes that while the color burst phase is locked during transmission, it may rotate by the time it reaches the color decoder, leading to issues with NTSC signals, which they describe as “Never The Same Color.”
  • A reference to a document is provided, which includes an equation for the complete color signal and discusses the phase reference related to the color burst.
  • A participant shares a resource in the form of an old NTSC station calibration video to help illustrate the chroma signal and color burst phase relationship.
  • One participant indicates they have gained clarity on the topic after reviewing the contributions from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the demodulation process and the implications of phase rotation in NTSC signals. There is no clear consensus on the best method for demodulation or the implications of the colorburst phase relationship.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the phase relationships and their mathematical derivations remain unresolved, and the discussion does not clarify the effectiveness of the proposed methods.

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Hello everyone,
I'm working on a project that requires me to demodulate an NTSC composite video signal into an RGB form. Despite having read a book and visited numerous websites detailing how this is performed, I am still confused. First, it seems that the colorburst signal is not in phase (or separated by some multiple of 90 degrees) with either the I or Q signal, so I'm not sure how either the I or Q signal can be demodulated without crosstalk. Second, I have heard of a method of demodulation called R-Y/B-Y, which I understand is appealing because somehow the B-Y signal is in phase with the colorburst, yet I still don't understand how this relationship is derived in a mathematical sense, or even how this particular method works. Thanks for any help with this.
 
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Fischer777 said:
First, it seems that the colorburst signal is not in phase (or separated by some multiple of 90 degrees) with either the I or Q signal, so I'm not sure how either the I or Q signal can be demodulated without crosstalk.
In NTSC the colour burst phase is locked at transmit but by the time the signal reaches the colour decoder the original phase has been rotated. That is overcome by the PAL correction. NTSC is “Never The Same Color” due to phase rotation causing cross-talk.

Look at page 5 of this document.
http://www.earlytelevision.org/pdf/NTSC_Signal_Specifications.pdf

D. Equation of Complete Color Signal

"The color picture signal has the following composition:"

"The phase reference in the above equation is the phase of the (color burst +180°), as shown in Fig. 3. The burst corresponds to amplitude modulation of a continuous sine wave."
 
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Baluncore said:
NTSC is “Never The Same Color”

:D
 
Here is a old NTSC station calibration video that might help to understand the chroma signal and color burst phase relationship using a vectorscope.

 
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Alright, I think I've got it now. Thanks guys!
 

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