Derivative of Action Integral Equals Generalized Momentum?

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The discussion centers on deriving the relationship between the action integral S and generalized momentum p(tf) in classical mechanics. The participant successfully demonstrates that the partial derivative of the action S with respect to the generalized coordinate q(tf) equals the generalized momentum p(tf). This conclusion is reached by applying the fundamental equation S = integral of L dt and evaluating the limits of integration, leading to the result that partial S/partial q(tf) = p(tf). The participant also highlights that the initial conditions do not necessarily imply p(ti) = 0.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the partial derivative of the action S with respect to the generalized coordinate q(tf) and according to my textbook, it should equal the generalized momentum p(tf). How can I derive this?

Homework Equations


S = integral of L dt, with boundary ti to tf. (ti and tf are initial and final times)
qi = 0 (initial generalized coordinate)

The Attempt at a Solution


I took the partial derivative of both sides with respect to the generalized coordinate q, so the right side will have partial L partial q (which is equal to (p dot)) so I'm left with integral of (p dot) dt, but this is simple p(tf) - p(ti). Since qi = 0, p(ti) = 0. Hence partial S partial q(tf) = p(tf).

Is this a possible solution? I have also uploaded my solution. Thanks.
 

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I think you can stop and declare victory as soon as you get to ##p(t_f)-p(t_i)##. That's a momentum quantity, which is all that's needed.

It is not necessarily the case that ##p(t_i)=0## or that ##q(t_i)=0##. Even if they were, a change of coordinates such as a shift of origin and/or a velocity boost could render them nonzero.
 

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