Derivative of an Nasty Exponential Function

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Homework Statement


The question is given just like this:
##\frac{d}{dx}(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)## = ?
I assume they want me to find the derivative of the whole thing.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm thinking the first step is:
##\frac{d}{dx}(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds) = (exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)(\frac{d}{dx}\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)##

Unfortunately I don't know how to deal with the derivative of the integral now since the X is one of the limits of integration and not part of the function. I'm not sure I've ever seen a problem like this before. o_O
 
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I've used something similar in one of @micromass ' challenges. I think it helps to write the integral according to the fundamental theorem as ##\int_1^x f = F(x) - F(1)## but I'm not sure.
 
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Drakkith said:
Unfortunately I don't know how to deal with the derivative of the integral now since the X is one of the limits of integration and not part of the function. I'm not sure I've ever seen a problem like this before. o_O

Well, too much of a hint will give away the answer. But to get an idea of how this works, try a couple of examples for [itex]P(s)[/itex].
For example,
  • Try [itex]P(s) = 1[/itex]: What is [itex]\int_0^x P(s) ds[/itex]? What's its derivative?
  • Try [itex]P(s) = s[/itex]: What is [itex]\int_0^x P(s) ds[/itex]? What's its derivative?
  • Try [itex]P(s) = s^2[/itex].
Do you see the pattern?
 
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The first part of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus says, in essence, that ##\frac d{dx} \left(\int_a^x f(t)dt\right) = f(x)##.
 
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I should add that things have to be exactly as I wrote them. I.e., if we're differentiating with respect to x, x has to be the upper limit of integration. Likewise, if the differentiation is with respect to, say, r, r has to be the upper limit of integration.

Also, although the integral appears to be a definite integral (which would imply that the integral represents a fixed number), it's really a function of x. Different values of x produce different values for the integral.
 
stevendaryl said:
Well, too much of a hint will give away the answer. But to get an idea of how this works, try a couple of examples for [itex]P(s)[/itex].
For example,
  • Try [itex]P(s) = 1[/itex]: What is [itex]\int_0^x P(s) ds[/itex]? What's its derivative?
  • Try [itex]P(s) = s[/itex]: What is [itex]\int_0^x P(s) ds[/itex]? What's its derivative?
  • Try [itex]P(s) = s^2[/itex].
Do you see the pattern?

Indeed. When I put those values in for P(s) it appears that the derivative to each integral is simply P(s) (or P(x) rather).

Mark44 said:
The first part of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus says, in essence, that ##\frac d{dx} \left(\int_a^x f(t)dt\right) = f(x)##.

So it does. I certainly feel silly now. o:)So that would mean that: ##\frac{d}{dx}(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds) = (exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)(\frac{d}{dx}\int_1^x P(s)\ ds) =(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)P(x) ##
 
Drakkith said:
Indeed. When I put those values in for P(s) it appears that the derivative to each integral is simply P(s) (or P(x) rather).
So it does. I certainly feel silly now. o:)So that would mean that: ##\frac{d}{dx}(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds) = (exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)(\frac{d}{dx}\int_1^x P(s)\ ds) =(exp\int_1^x P(s)\ ds)P(x) ##
Looks good.
 
Thanks all!
 

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