Derivative Question: Constant Pi in V = pi*h*r^2 Equation

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The discussion revolves around taking derivatives in the context of a volume equation for a cylindrical tank, specifically V = πhr². Participants are exploring the implications of treating π as a constant in derivative calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the derivative of a constant and question whether π should be treated as zero in the differentiation process. There is also a clarification regarding the actual problem involving related rates and the need to differentiate both sides of the volume equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem setup and the correct approach to differentiation. Some have pointed out the need for more context regarding the actual problem, while others are attempting to clarify the role of constants in the differentiation process.

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Participants note that the problem involves related rates and that the original poster has provided additional context about the scenario involving a cylindrical tank being filled with water.

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I just have a quick question on derivatives
If I was to take [tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex] of V = pi*h*r^2, the pi would be 0, right? Since pi is a constant, and derivatives of constants are 0, right?
In need of some confirmation, thanks :D
 
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i don't want to say yes b/c it seems as if there is more to your problem that isn't showing in the latex

if it's just [tex]\frac{d}{dt}\pi=0[/tex] then yes, but idk about your problem
 
It seems you wanted [tex]\frac{dV}{dt}[/tex], where [tex]V= \pi hr^2[/tex].

Well, there is no t in the expression for V, so really dV/dt is 0, since the other things are all constants with respect to t.
 
Sorry, I've fixed it though XD

It's actually a "Related Rates" problem I'm working on, and my prof said to take d/dt of both sides of V = (pi)hr^2
So I'm just wondering if the pi portion would automatically be 0
 
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Give us the actual problem! [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \pi = 0[/tex] but [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \pi x = \pi[/tex]
 
Gib Z said:
Give us the actual problem! [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \pi = 0[/tex] but [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \pi x = \pi[/tex]
lol ... :D
 
Ok, so the actual problem is:
An upright cylindrical tank with radius 6 m is being filled with water at a rate of 4 m3/min. How fast is the height of the water increasing?

So I wanted to take the d/dt of the equation V = (pi)hr^2, since I figured that's what the prof said, and now.. I'm just trying to figure out what the d/dt is :/
 

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