Derivatives Homework: Solving for D_x of (1/x^2 - x) and Limits

  • Thread starter Thread starter Equilibrium
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Derivatives
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function \( \frac{1}{x^2} - x \) using the definition of the derivative. Participants explore various approaches to this problem, including the application of limits and the power rule.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of the derivative and how to apply it to the given function. Some suggest rewriting the function in a different form to facilitate differentiation. Others question the original poster's approach and encourage showing more steps in the calculations.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with multiple participants providing hints and suggestions for rewriting expressions. Some participants express gratitude for the hints received, indicating a collaborative atmosphere. However, there is no explicit consensus on a final solution as the discussion remains focused on the process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement to use the definition of the derivative, which may impose constraints on the methods used. There is also mention of the original poster being instructed to take a longer approach, which influences the discussion dynamics.

Equilibrium
Messages
81
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


[tex]D_x(\frac{1}{x^2}-x)[/tex]


Homework Equations


[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{2xh}+\frac{1}{h^2}-h}{h}[/tex]
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
I don't see much of a "problem statement". If I were asked to find the derivative of [itex]\frac{1}{x^2}- x[/itex], I would write it as [itex]x^{-2}- x[/itex], and then use the power rule: the derivative is [itex]-2x^{-3}-1= \frac{-2}{x^3}- 1[/itex].

If the problem itself requires that you use the definition of the derivative, say so!

What is [tex]\frac{1}{(x+h)^2}- \frac{1}{x^2}[/tex]?
 
Show more steps but...

If you have to use the definition of a derivative to solve,

[tex]f(x+h)[/tex] = what? Plug in x+h into the original equation and show us what you get. Then show us what f(x+h)-f(x) looks like.

edit::Sorry HallsofIvy, didn't see your post before I posted :P
 
hint [tex](x+h)^{2}=x^2+2hx+h^{2}[/tex]
 
thank you for all the hint
i was really told to do it the long cut way

where i was stuck was:
[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{(x+h)^2} - x - h - \frac{1}{x^2} + x}{h}[/tex]
then i cancel the x...

then
[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{x^2+2xh+h^2} - h - \frac{1}{x^2}{h}[/tex]

then i cancel the [tex]\frac{1}{x^2}[/tex]

then this was the part where i got stuck:
[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{2xh}+\frac{1}{h^2}-h}{h}[/tex]
 
Last edited:
Notice that

[tex]f(x+h)=\frac{1}{(x+h)^{2}}-(x+h)[/tex]
and
[tex]f(x)=\frac{1}{x^{2}}-x[/tex]

so

[tex]\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{(\frac{1}{(x+h)^{2}}-(x+h))-(\frac{1}{x^{2}}-x)}{h}[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{x^{2}+2hx+h^{2}}-\frac{1}{x^{2}}-h}{h}[/tex]

After this point you will need to rewrite both fractions on the numerator as one giant fraction and divide each term by h and then evaluate
 
Last edited:
[tex](x+y)^{2} = x^{2}+2xy+y^{2}[/tex] it is NOT [tex]x^{2}+y^{2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{(x+h)^{2}} = \frac{1}{x^{2}+2hx+h^{2}}[/tex] it is NOT [tex]\frac{1}{x^{2}}+\frac{1}{h^{2}}[/tex] or anything like that.
 
I got it...
[tex]\frac{-2-x^3}{x^3}[/tex]

i am very thankful for all your help
 
Correct.

No problem at all, happy to help you. I would rewrite it though.

[tex]\frac{x^{2}-1}{x^{2}} = 1-\frac{1}{x^{2}}[/tex] (Just demonstrating how, you should be able to apply it and simplify)

But that's up to you and I would think that the format you have it in now is okay.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K