Derivatives Problem (Calculus I)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the area of a rectangle, represented by the formula A = bh, with respect to time (t). Participants are exploring the implications of the variable t in the context of the problem, particularly how it relates to the dimensions of the rectangle, b and h.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand how to apply the product rule and chain rule in the context of the problem. There is confusion regarding the presence of the variable t and how it affects the differentiation process. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of derivatives when both dimensions are considered functions of time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations of the problem and seeking clarification on the role of time in the differentiation process. Some have suggested that the original poster consult their teacher for further explanation, while others are trying to relate this problem to a previous one involving a square.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the original problem statement, as participants question the phrasing "find d/dt for a rectangle." Assumptions about the nature of b and h as functions of time are being discussed, but there is no consensus on how to proceed with the differentiation.

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Homework Statement


find d/dt for a rectangle.

Homework Equations


A=bh
product rule for derivatives (the first times the derivative of the second plus the second times the derivative of the first)
Chain rule for derivatives

The Attempt at a Solution


If b is a constant, then I know that dA/dh = b (this was the previous problem in which I could solve)
my issue with the current problem is that this variable t that I'm supposed to take the derivative with respect to is not in the problem- so how would I go about doing this?

My attempt:
d/dt (A=bh)
dA/dt = bh
dA/dt = (b(dA/dh)) + (h(dA/db))
My only problem with this solution is that I think there should be a d(b or h)/dt on the right side of the equation because of the chain rule

could someone please explain where/why the variable t comes in and what the correct answer is? Thank you!
 
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PotentialE said:
find d/dt for a rectangle.

I have no clue what this means. Can you quote the full problem as it appears in your book?
 
that's my problem too... that IS the quote!

"Find d/dt for a rectangle" and then the formula given is A=bh
so find d/dt for A=bh
 
Well, that makes no sense. I advice asking your teacher for more explanations.
 
On a previous problem:
Find d/dt for a square

and the answer was:
d/dt (A=s2)

dA/dt = 2s (ds/dt)

perhaps you understand this one? (I don't)
well i know the derivative of s2 = 2s. so we've taken the derivative of A with respect to t... so perhaps multiplying 2s by ds/dt is part of the chain rule or something... I don't really know where ds/dt came from
 
PotentialE said:

Homework Statement


find d/dt for a rectangle.


Homework Equations


A=bh
product rule for derivatives (the first times the derivative of the second plus the second times the derivative of the first)
Chain rule for derivatives

The Attempt at a Solution


If b is a constant, then I know that dA/dh = b (this was the previous problem in which I could solve)
my issue with the current problem is that this variable t that I'm supposed to take the derivative with respect to is not in the problem- so how would I go about doing this?

My attempt:
d/dt (A=bh)
dA/dt = bh
dA/dt = (b(dA/dh)) + (h(dA/db))
My only problem with this solution is that I think there should be a d(b or h)/dt on the right side of the equation because of the chain rule

could someone please explain where/why the variable t comes in and what the correct answer is? Thank you!
Assume that b and h are both functions of time.

There should be no derivatives of A on the right hand side of the following:

dA/dt = (b(dA/dh)) + (h(dA/db))

Use the product rule to find [itex]\displaystyle \frac{d}{dt}(b\,h)\ .[/itex[/itex]
 

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