Rate of change problem (differentiation)

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The discussion revolves around a differentiation problem related to the rate of change of volume and area in a calculus context. Participants are exploring the relationships between height, area, and volume in a solid of revolution scenario.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive expressions for area and volume based on height and are questioning the correctness of their assumptions and formulations. There are discussions about differentiating area with respect to height and the implications of volume flow rates.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved, with some participants providing guidance on the expressions for area and volume. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being discussed, and some participants are clarifying definitions and assumptions without reaching a consensus.

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Clara Chung
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Homework Statement


Refer to the photo, please verify my answer

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calculus

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For c, can I do it by assuming Ah=V.
A(dh/dt) + h(dA/dt) = dV/dt then find dA/dt?
 

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Don't you have an expression for A(h)?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Don't you have an expression for A(h)?
A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] ... then ?
 
Do you have an expression for V(h) then?

(BTW: very few people will trouble to read images.)
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Do you have V(h) then?
I don't know what is V(h), I try to assume it as V(h)= A(h)[h] = 2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] h for small interval of h, but I don't know if it is correct.
 
Didn't you just do a "volume of a solid of revolution" calculation?
Didn't you use the method of disks?

Lessee ... the disk between y and y+dy will have area A(y) and width dy, so it's volume is dV = A(y).dy
You need the volume between the bottom and y=h ... in the problem "h" is not a "small interval", it is a value of y.

For the rest ... you are given the volume flow rate of water dV/dt, and you need dh/dt and dA/dt.
If you know how the height changes with time already, and you know how the area depends on the height ...
 
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A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2], so for c part, can I just differentiate both side, since I know dh/dt = 4/5 in b part.
dA(h)/ dt = 2(pi)(1/2)(1+9)^(-1/2)(2)(2+1) dh/dt
so dA(h)/dt = 24pi/5root(10)
 
Clara Chung said:
A(h) =2 (pi) root[1+(h+1)^2] ... then ?
That looks like the circumference of the circular surface, not the area.
 
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SammyS said:
That looks like the circumference of the circular surface, not the area.
A(h) = pi(1+(h+1)^2)
=pi (2+2h+h^2)
dA(h) / dt = pi(2h+2)dh/dt
=24/5
thanks
 
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Clara Chung said:
A(h) = pi(1+(h+1)^2)
=pi (2+2h+h^2)
dA(h) / dt = pi(2h+2)dh/dt
=24/5
thanks
That looks better.See what Simon said:
Simon Bridge said:
(BTW: very few people will trouble to read images.)
Notice: It's pretty easy to display your image directly in a post:

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Thank you for the advice from you both. Can you also teach me how to show that "1-t^2/2 <=cost <=1 for 0<=t<=1 "
 
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Clara Chung said:
Thank you for the advice from you both. Can you also teach me how to show that "1-t^2/2 <=cost <=1 for 0<=t<=1 "
You should start a new thread for this.
 
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@Clara Chung, problems involving differentiation should be posted in the calculus subsection, not the precalculus section.
 

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