Derivatives with multiple variable, help

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This discussion revolves around an optimization problem involving the function P(R)=(E^2*R)/(R+r)^2, where participants are exploring the derivative P'(R) and its implications for finding maximum values.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the differentiation of the term E^2*R, with one participant questioning why the derivative is E^2 rather than following a power rule approach. There is a discussion about constants and their treatment in differentiation.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with some participants providing clarifications regarding the treatment of constants in differentiation. There is acknowledgment of the reasoning behind the derivative calculations, but further exploration of the optimization problem itself appears to be ongoing.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that E and r are constants while R is the variable of differentiation. This context is critical for understanding the derivative calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement



This is an Optimization Problem, find the maximum value.

P(R)=(E^2*R)/(R+r)^2

Homework Equations



P'(R)=?

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the solution to this problem, and I can solve it, I just don't understand some parts. I tend to think that the derivative of E^2*R = 2ER, like the power rule similar to if I solved x^2*y I would get 2xy. But the derivative of E^2*R is just E^2 and I cannot figure it out. Can someone please explain to me with mathematical proof why the derivative of E^2*R=E^2? Thanks a bunch.
 
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jonhendrix86 said:

Homework Statement



This is an Optimization Problem, find the maximum value.

P(R)=(E^2*R)/(R+r)^2

Homework Equations



P'(R)=?

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the solution to this problem, and I can solve it, I just don't understand some parts. I tend to think that the derivative of E^2*R = 2ER, like the power rule similar to if I solved x^2*y I would get 2xy. But the derivative of E^2*R is just E^2 and I cannot figure it out. Can someone please explain to me with mathematical proof why the derivative of E^2*R=E^2? Thanks a bunch.

It's because E and r are constants. R is the variable. The derivative of a constant is zero. If c is a constant then d/dR(cR)=c.
 
jonhendrix86 said:
P(R)=(E^2*R)/(R+r)^2
I tend to think that the derivative of E^2*R = 2ER, like the power rule similar to if I solved x^2*y I would get 2xy. But the derivative of E^2*R is just E^2 and I cannot figure it out. Can someone please explain to me with mathematical proof why the derivative of E^2*R=E^2? Thanks a bunch.
E is a constant here, yes? So E^2 is as well. You can just take the constant outside the derivative:
d/dx(c f(x)) = c d/dx(f(x)).
Note that this is not some special treatment of constants. You can get the same result using the product rule:
d/dx(c f(x)) = c d/dx(f(x)) + f(x) dc/dx, but because c is a constant dc/dx = 0.
 
Thank you! I see it now.

Concerning E^2*R,

if y'=uv'+vu', then y'=(E^2)(1)+(R)(0)=E^2.
 

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