Deriving a Function of Two Variables

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The discussion revolves around deriving a function of two variables, specifically focusing on the function f(x,y) = ((x^-1)+(y^-1)). The original poster seeks assistance in finding the partial derivatives F'x and F'y, as well as expressing dz/dt and dz/ds given the relationships between the variables.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of partial derivatives and expresses confusion regarding the notation and methodology involved in differentiating functions of multiple variables. Some participants clarify the proper notation for partial derivatives and suggest treating one variable as constant while differentiating with respect to another.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, providing clarifications and guidance on the differentiation process. There is a productive exchange regarding the relationships between the variables and how to approach the derivatives.

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The original poster mentions missing a lecture on the topic, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that is being addressed through the discussion. There is also a note about the use of symbols in the forum, suggesting a learning environment where participants are exploring not just the mathematical concepts but also the communication methods used in the forum.

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Derivating a function of a function with two variables

Hi i am new to this forum so please bear with me if i made a mistake or posted in the wrong section :)

Homework Statement



Given that f(x,y)= ((x^-1)+(y^-1)) find F'x and F'y
Given z= F(x,y) and x=f(t) while y= g(t,s) express dz/dt and dz/ds

Homework Equations



This i hope you can help me with, missed the lecture where the professor explained this and i can't find any relevant information in the math book nor did googling or wikipedia help.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is the first time i encounter derviation of functions, I have no problems derivating equations and most of my life i just had to derivate X, this is why i have no clue as to how i should solve this problem.

F'x= -1/(x)^2 and F'y= -1/(y)^-2

I hope you can explain it to me instead of just giving an answer and i will be grateful.


Thanks for your help and sorry for the bad english

Edit: Even the name of the subject this problem touches would be ok, and hopefully some links :D more fun that way
 
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brollysan said:
Hi i am new to this forum so please bear with me if i made a mistake or posted in the wrong section :)

Homework Statement



Given that f(x,y)= ((x^-1)+(y^-1)) find F'x and F'y
Given z= F(x,y) and x=f(t) while y= g(t,s) express dz/dt and dz/ds

Homework Equations



This i hope you can help me with, missed the lecture where the professor explained this and i can't find any relevant information in the math book nor did googling or wikipedia help.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is the first time i encounter derviation of functions, I have no problems derivating equations and most of my life i just had to derivate X, this is why i have no clue as to how i should solve this problem.

F'x= -1/(x)^2 and F'y= -1/(y)^-2

I hope you can explain it to me instead of just giving an answer and i will be grateful.


Thanks for your help and sorry for the bad english

Edit: Even the name of the subject this problem touches would be ok, and hopefully some links :D more fun that way
You are dealing with partial derivatives since F depends upon two independent variables.
What you are calling "F'x" and "F'y" would be more properly called [itex]\partial F/\partial x[/itex] and [itex]\partial F/\partial y[/itex] or just Fx and Fy, respectively.

The partial derivative of a function, with respect to x, is jus the derivative treating y as a constant. What is dF/dx if F(x)= x-1+ C for some constant C? What is dF/dy if F(y)= C+ y-1?
 
Thank you so much, i am going to try and find relevant information on this subject and learn it by myself :) thanks again. I will solve the querstions you asked in a few hours, have to eat first.
 
Allright for the second part of the problem i have that z = F(x,y)= F(f(t), g(t,s))

I understand that dz/dt= F'x(x,y)dx/dt + F'y(x,y)dy/dt

But what about dz/ds, how do i proceed there?

Edit:

seeing as s isn't a function of f(x)=x is x a constant when you derivate dz/ds? If x is a constant, would the correct answer be

dz/ds= F'y(x,y)(dy/ds)?
 
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Hey
Yes it is correct. As x has no dependence on s
[tex]\frac{\partial{x}}{\partial{s}}=0[/tex]
 
Thank you :)

Edit: How do you guys manage to write the symbols in here? Html code?
 
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