Describing path of the object in an xy plane

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The discussion revolves around understanding the path of an object in the xy-plane, specifically regarding its motion in a circular trajectory with a radius of 5.00m centered at (0, 4.00m).

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  • Participants explore the equation of a circle and how the coordinates of the object relate to this equation. There are attempts to manipulate the position functions into the standard form of a circle's equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical relationships involved in the problem. Some have provided guidance on the form of the circle's equation and how to express the object's coordinates in that context. There is a recognition of the relationship between the derived equations and the circular motion described.

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Some participants question the assumptions made about the object's path and the validity of the derived equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly represent the motion in the context of circular geometry.

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For part(d) of this problem,
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The solution is,
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However, how did they know that the object moves in a circle of radius 5.00m centered at (0,4.00m)?

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What is the equation of a circle centered at ##(x_0,y_0)##?
 
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The coordinates satisfy the equation of such a circle. This is how they know.
 
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Thank you for your replies @kuruman and @nasu!

The equation of a circle centered at ##(x_0, y_0)## is ##(x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2##

Many thanks!
 
Can you bring what you have in that form? Remember that ##~\sin^2x+\cos^2x=1.##
 
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kuruman said:
Can you bring what you have in that form? Remember that ##~\sin^2x+\cos^2x=1.##
Thank you for your reply @kuruman !

Here is what I got:

##x^2 + y^2 = r^2 ##
##(-5.00sin\omega t)^2 + (4.00 - 5cos\omega t)^2 = r^2 ##
##25sin^2\omega t + 16 - 40cos\omega t +25cos^2\omega t = r^2 ##
##25(sin^2\omega t + cos^2\omega t) +16 - 40cos\omega t = r^2 ##
## 41 - 40cos\omega t = r^2 ##

EDIT: I'm now thinking that I should put the individual position function in the x-components in the y-components in the circle formula I posted.

Many thanks!
 
Callumnc1 said:
Here is what I got:
Don't try to prove that way ...
Callumnc1 said:
EDIT: I'm now thinking that I should put the individual position function in the x-components in the y-components in the circle formula I posted.
Yes.
We know that ##x=-5sinωt## and ##y-4=-5cosωt## so we have:
##x^2+(y-4)^2=25sin^2ωt+25cos^2ωt=25## and we know that ##x^2+(y-4)^2=5^2## is equation of a circle with ##r=5## that is centered at ##(0,4)##.
 
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MatinSAR said:
Don't try to prove that way ...

Yes.
We know that ##x=-5sinωt## and ##y-4=-5cosωt## so we have:
##x^2+(y-4)^2=25sin^2ωt+25cos^2ωt=25## and we know that ##x^2+(y-4)^2=5^2## is equation of a circle with ##r=5## that is centered at ##(0,4)##.
Thank you for your reply @MarinSAR! I see now :)
 
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