Vector Line Integral Direction of Limits

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a line integral for a vector field in the xy-plane, specifically focusing on the direction of limits and the implications of different integral setups. The vector field in question is defined as ## v = (2x - y) \hat i + (-yz^2) \hat j + -(y^2 z) \hat k ##, with the evaluation occurring from the point (1,1) to (0,1) while considering z = 0.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the setup of the line integral, questioning the consistency of the integral's limits and the direction of the differential vector. Some participants express skepticism about the correctness of the book's answer, suggesting a need for further examination of the conventions used in defining the integral.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral's limits and the implications of the setup. Some guidance has been offered, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the book's answer.

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Participants note the potential confusion arising from the representation of the integral limits and the dimensionality of the problem, indicating a need for clarity in the definitions used.

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Homework Statement
Evaluate the line integral for the vector field ## v = (2x - y) \hat i + (-yz^2) \hat j + -(y^2 z) \hat k ## from (1,1) to (0,1)
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Hi,

I apologise as I know I have made similar posts to this in the past and I thought I finally understood it. However, this solution seems to disagree on a technicality. I know the answer ends up as 0, but I still want to understand this from a conceptual point.

Question: Evaluate the line integral for the vector field ## v = (2x - y) \hat i + (-yz^2) \hat j + -(y^2 z) \hat k ## from (1,1) to (0,1) when we are in the xy-plane (i.e. z = 0).

Approach:
Given that we are in the xy-plane where ## z = 0 ## and at ## y = 1 ##, the vector field becomes:
$$ v = (2x - 1) \hat i $$

Then when I set up the integral, ## d \vec r = -dx \hat i ## and thus:
$$ \int_0^1 \vec v \cdot d \vec r = \int_0^1 (2x - 1) \hat i \cdot -dx \hat i = - \int_0^1 (2x - 1) dx = 0 $$

However, the answer writes the integral as:
$$ - \int_1^0 (2x - 1) dx = 0 $$

I know that the answers are the same, but if the integral wasn't 0, then the answers would be different. I thought the convention was to define ## d \vec r ## in the direction of the path and the limits in terms of the increasing parameter.

I am sure this has been answered in similar posts but am unable to find them. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Seems to me the book answer is wrong ...
(@haruspex ?)
 
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BvU said:
Seems to me the book answer is wrong ...
(@haruspex ?)
I agree.
(Odd to write the range with endpoints expressed as only 2D.)
 
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