Design code for structural steel materials

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the suitability of different structural steel materials, specifically ASTM A36 compared to S275 J2 and S355ML/NL, for applications such as piperacks and equipment structures. Participants explore the optimal and economical aspects of these materials based on international standards.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether ASTM A36 is truly optimal compared to S275 J2 or S355ML/NL, seeking explanations for the differences.
  • One participant suggests that bidders may propose materials based on profitability rather than optimal performance, prompting a call for data sheet comparisons.
  • Another participant references various standards (ACI, AISC, ASCE, ASTM) and requests guidance on which material is optimal and economical.
  • A participant notes that A36 is perceived as the lowest quality among the materials discussed, particularly in terms of yield strength, although it may be the cheapest option.
  • It is mentioned that the best material choice depends on the specific application, indicating variability in requirements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimality and economic viability of the materials discussed, with no consensus reached on which material is superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference yield strength as a critical metric but do not provide specific data or comparisons. The discussion lacks detailed definitions and assumptions regarding the applications of each material.

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Bidders propeses ASTM A36 material istead of S275 J2 or S355ML/NL for structural steel (Piperack, Equipment Structure, etc.) on the basis of international standards for most optimal and economical design. Is it really optimal? pls explain why
 
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Bidders propose what they can make money on. What do the data sheets say?
 
ACI, AISC, ASCE and ASTM will apply to Civil and Structral. So pls help which of one is optimal and economical ASTM A36 or S275 J2 or S355ML/NL? Thank u
 
Well, I've heard of ASTM A36 and know where to go to find the details, if need be. :wink:

S275 J2 or S355 ML/NL I've never heard of and wouldn't know where to go for the details without doing some digging. :frown:
 
From what I know, A36 is the lowest quality among those if we compare the yield strengths, which is the most important metric in most cases. It is probably the cheapest, though I don't know the steel prices. You can refer to this:

http://ds.arcelormittal.com/repo/Projects%20Oil%20and%20Gas/Material%20Grade%20Comparison%20Chart.pdf

Which is best? That depends on the application.
 

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