Brushless DC Rotor Position Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on methods for sensing the position of a rotor in a brushless DC (BLDC) motor. Participants explore various techniques, including traditional methods and more innovative approaches, while considering their accuracy and potential challenges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about alternative methods for rotor position sensing beyond hall sensors and back emf, suggesting a laser and photoresistor setup.
  • Another participant mentions rotary encoders as a common solution for position sensing.
  • A different participant introduces resolvers as useful devices for determining absolute position, highlighting their operational principles involving inductance and capacitance changes.
  • Magnetic encoders are proposed as a more precise alternative to hall sensors, offering continuous position feedback.
  • Sensorless control techniques are suggested, which estimate rotor position using mathematical algorithms based on motor parameters like current and voltage.
  • Some participants express interest in the original laser and photoresistor idea, acknowledging potential challenges such as heat interference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that multiple methods exist for sensing rotor position in BLDC motors, but there is no consensus on which method is superior or most suitable for specific applications. Various competing views and suggestions remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential interference from motor heat affecting the proposed laser and photoresistor method, as well as the need for further exploration of the advantages and limitations of each suggested method.

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Hi. I am curious about ways to sense the position of a rotor in a BLDC motor. I am familiar with hall sensors and back emf but am wondering if there are other ways to find the position of a rotor maybe more accurately.

I had an idea about using a laser and a photoresistor around the circumference of the stator that would use the varied resistance to give a voltage reading to a microcontroller that could be used to find the position. Maybe I'm way off with that one I can see some problems like heat from the motor messing with the resistance. If anyone could give me some suggestions on what's out there I would appreciate it.
 
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Resolvers are also useful for absolute position.
 


Hello! Your question about finding the position of a rotor in a brushless DC motor is a great one. Hall sensors and back emf are commonly used methods for sensing rotor position, but there are also other options available.

One possibility is using a resolver, which is an electromechanical device that can accurately determine the position and speed of a rotating shaft. It works by using a rotor and stator with multiple windings and measuring the inductance and capacitance changes as the rotor rotates.

Another option is using a magnetic encoder, which uses a magnetic field to detect the position of a rotor. This can be a more precise method compared to hall sensors, as it can provide continuous position feedback instead of discrete signals.

Your idea of using a laser and photoresistor is also interesting. While it may face challenges with heat and potential interference, it could be worth exploring further as a potential solution.

I would also suggest looking into sensorless control techniques, which use mathematical algorithms to estimate the rotor position based on other motor parameters such as current and voltage. This can eliminate the need for physical sensors and potentially provide more accurate results.

Overall, there are various methods available for sensing rotor position in a BLDC motor, each with their own advantages and limitations. I recommend researching and testing different options to find the best solution for your specific application. Best of luck in your research!
 

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