Detectable wavelengths of light at the surface of the Earth

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The discussion revolves around the detectable wavelengths of electromagnetic energy at the Earth's surface, particularly focusing on the infrared spectrum and how atmospheric conditions affect these wavelengths. Participants are exploring the extent to which different wavelengths, especially infrared, penetrate the atmosphere without significant absorption.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on the wavelengths of electromagnetic energy detectable on Earth, specifically in the infrared range.
  • Another participant mentions that about 50% of light reaching the Earth's surface is infrared, expressing surprise that longer wavelengths are not more absorbed by the atmosphere.
  • A participant shares a link to a diagram that illustrates the wavelengths and their transparency in the atmosphere.
  • Some participants note that a significant amount of infrared radiation is absorbed by atmospheric moisture, which influences the placement of infrared telescopes on high mountain tops to minimize this effect.
  • Personal anecdotes are shared regarding visits to telescopes in Hawaii, highlighting challenges faced due to weather conditions affecting data collection.
  • One participant references a link that explains solar radiation levels at sea and atmospheric levels, including ultraviolet and infrared components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the absorption of infrared wavelengths by the atmosphere, with some agreeing on the role of atmospheric moisture while others question the extent of absorption. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific wavelengths that are most detectable.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in their understanding and the need for further exploration of the atmospheric absorption characteristics, particularly regarding infrared wavelengths.

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I am sure this will become a 'face-palm' moment, but can anyone point me in the direction of what electromagnetic energy wavelengths on either side of the visible spectrum, that is detectable on earth, ie what is not filtered by our atmosphere? I am specifically trying to find information on the wavelength spectrum of infrared light that hits the Earth's surface.
Thanks.
 
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CRuff said:
I am sure this will become a 'face-palm' moment, but can anyone point me in the direction of what electromagnetic energy wavelengths on either side of the visible spectrum, that is detectable on earth, ie what is not filtered by our atmosphere? I am specifically trying to find information on the wavelength spectrum of infrared light that hits the Earth's surface.
Thanks.
A quick Google will give you info on this. About 50% of light that reaches the Earth's surface is infra red according to searches. I'm surprised by that, I would have thought longer wavelengths would be more readily absorbed by the atmosphere.
 
CRuff said:
I am sure this will become a 'face-palm' moment, but can anyone point me in the direction of what electromagnetic energy wavelengths on either side of the visible spectrum, that is detectable on earth, ie what is not filtered by our atmosphere? I am specifically trying to find information on the wavelength spectrum of infrared light that hits the Earth's surface.
Thanks.
Nice diagram
https://www.fondriest.com/environme.../weather/photosynthetically-active-radiation/
 
pinball1970 said:
I'm surprised by that, I would have thought longer wavelengths would be more readily absorbed by the atmosphere.
A lot of IR is absorbed by atmospheric moisture. That is why IR telescopes are built on very high mountain tops to get above most of the atmospheric water vapour ... eg. the one on top of Mauna Kea

from my visit there in 1999
nasa_infrared_scope.jpg
 
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The image below, from this site, shows where the Earth's atmosphere is transparent enough for observations. This site has more detail on what component of the Earth's atmosphere is doing the absorption in the IR.

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davenn said:
A lot of IR is absorbed by atmospheric moisture. That is why IR telescopes are built on very high mountain tops to get above most of the atmospheric water vapour ... eg. the one on top of Mauna Kea

from my visit there in 1999
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My son visited the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope in Hawaii last year but did not get the data he needed as it was clouded over for 10 days pretty much. Go to Hawaii and get Manchester weather...

Anyway I should have noted the '1.what is solar radiation' in the link I posted to the original OP.
It explains all the levels at sea and atmospheric level including UV and infra red.
 
pinball1970 said:
y son visited the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope in Hawaii last year but did not get the data he needed as it was clouded over for 10 days pretty much. Go to Hawaii and get Manchester weather...
Was probably during the hurricane season LOL ... the summit was closed when I was there last year as well because of Hurricane Lane :frown:
 
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