Determine Absolute Speed Using Time Dilation

Gaz
Messages
74
Reaction score
4
So if time dilation is what's left after correcting for the optical effect and we want to know our motion through the universe. We can't use light because we have no reference point to what not being in motion is and there's lots of attempts using light which doesn't work.
Why don't we just take a few atoms we know the decay rate of and send them in different directions. As motion makes them last longer the one's traveling in a direction that reduces there overall motion should last the least amount of time and the one that lasts the least amount of time would not be in motion. Then deducting that motion from our own will give us a reference to what no motion throughout the universe is. Then everything would be a lot more relative =)

Would that work ?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Gaz said:
That makes sense. So if time dilation is what's left after correcting for the optical effect and we want to know our motion through the universe. We can't use light because we have no reference point to what not being in motion is and there's lots of attempts using light which doesn't work.
Why don't we just take a few atoms we know the decay rate of and send them in different directions. As motion makes them last longer the one's traveling in a direction that reduces there overall motion should last the least amount of time and the one that lasts the least amount of time would not be in motion. Then deducting that motion from our own will give us a reference to what no motion throughout the universe is. Then everything would be a lot more relative =)

Would that work ?
It would not work: the relativity postulate also works for radioactive decay. For uniform motion we cannot establish a "preferred frame", instead any uniform straight motion reference system is equally suitable for the laws of physics. But to understand how that can be possible, it is necessary to understand "relativity of simultaneity".
 
Although we send them in different directions, they will show the same amount of time dilation relative to us. Furthermore, if someone moving relative to us tries this experiment, they will get the exact same results as well.
 
Thread 'Can this experiment break Lorentz symmetry?'
1. The Big Idea: According to Einstein’s relativity, all motion is relative. You can’t tell if you’re moving at a constant velocity without looking outside. But what if there is a universal “rest frame” (like the old idea of the “ether”)? This experiment tries to find out by looking for tiny, directional differences in how objects move inside a sealed box. 2. How It Works: The Two-Stage Process Imagine a perfectly isolated spacecraft (our lab) moving through space at some unknown speed V...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. The Relativator was sold by (as printed) Atomic Laboratories, Inc. 3086 Claremont Ave, Berkeley 5, California , which seems to be a division of Cenco Instruments (Central Scientific Company)... Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/relativator-circular-slide-rule-simulated-with-desmos/ by @robphy
Does the speed of light change in a gravitational field depending on whether the direction of travel is parallel to the field, or perpendicular to the field? And is it the same in both directions at each orientation? This question could be answered experimentally to some degree of accuracy. Experiment design: Place two identical clocks A and B on the circumference of a wheel at opposite ends of the diameter of length L. The wheel is positioned upright, i.e., perpendicular to the ground...

Similar threads

Back
Top