Determine magnitude of the components of these forces

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The discussion revolves around resolving a force (F2) into its components along specified axes (u and v). The original poster describes difficulties in calculating these components, particularly F2v and F2u, using trigonometric methods and the Law of Sines, while referencing a provided diagram.

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  • The original poster attempts to resolve F2 into components using trigonometric relationships and the Law of Sines, but expresses confusion over angle determination and resulting magnitudes. Participants question the consistency of the values provided for F2v and clarify the geometric relationships involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the geometric setup of the problem and the relationships between the vectors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the triangle formed by the vectors, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster mentions a diagram that is crucial for understanding the problem setup, which is not included in the text. There are also indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the angles and the relationships between the vectors involved.

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Resolve the force F2 into components acting along the u and v axes and determine the magnitudes of the components.

So! I was able to finally determine F2u. I cannot for the live of me get F2v. I am having a very hard time solving this problem. I have included the diagram of the problem. All of it is what is given.

Here is the link to the image:
http://i16.tinypic.com/6je9m60.jpg


Alright! So in order to first solve for F2v I constructed a triangle where the left side was the F2 force of 500 N and the right side was the F2v vector. They're both connected by the same point. It looks exactly as in the diagram I included. And via the diagram included I determined that the angles inside the triangle are 45, 65 and 70 counterclockwise. So! I used the Law of Sines. F2v is then 482 N.

Ok, so in order to calculate F2u I tried something similar but my numbers are far too large. I get numbers in the range of 600-1000 N. And...F2v should be 376 N. I tried the same thing I did with F2v but I can't seem to determine the base angles so that I can use Law of Sines again. I get 115 degrees as the angle between the concurrent forces (F2 and F2u). But I don't know how to get the other two angles. I'm just stumped. I thought maybe a different approach would be better. So I tried just solving for the opposite side of the u line to get F2u...In other words I said that F2u is (500 N)*cos(65 deg). 65 because that's the angle between 70 and 45. And...well I get 211 N. But that's not it either. =/

If anyone could tell me the way I'm supposed to be thinking about this problem I would greatly appreciate it because there are more problems like there I'm having trouble with but I really need some help. hahaha. Many thanks in advance!

--pka
 
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So! I was able to finally determine F2u. I cannot for the live of me get F2v.
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F2v is then 482 N.

Ok, so in order to calculate F2u I tried something similar but my numbers are far too large. I get numbers in the range of 600-1000 N. And...F2v should be 376 N.

You mean you can't get F2u? You just said that F2v was 482 N and then you said it was 376 N. I'm not sure I'm following...

Where you are taking your F2u? It should be from the tip of F2v (so along the v axis) to the tip of F2 and it will be parallel to the u axis. Those angles you stated are correct for the triangle those vectors form. You should just be able to use the sine law to get the answer.
 
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OOOOOHHHH! Thank you so much. I hadn't realized that the triangle I constructed was parallel to u. And yes, it was F2u is the one I needed to find. And of course it parallel right? Because otherwise how could I possibly have determined the angles of the triangle. I made this problem more difficult for myself than it needed to be. lol. In any case, thank you for the help!
 
You're welcome.
 

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