Force F1 Resolved: Calculate Components & Magnitudes

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The discussion revolves around resolving a force F1 into its components along non-orthogonal u and v axes, as well as determining the magnitudes of these components. Participants refer to a diagram and specific angles related to the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to resolve the force into components and question the labeling of angles in the diagram. There is mention of the axes not being orthogonal, which affects the calculations. Some suggest using trigonometric relationships and superimposing a standard xy axis system onto the uv system for clarity.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the angles and the relationship between the components. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the resolution of the force components, while others express difficulty in applying the suggestions.

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There is a reference to specific angles and the non-orthogonality of the axes, which may impact the calculations. Participants have also noted discrepancies in angle labeling that could affect the understanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Resolve the force F1 into components acting along u and v axes and determine the magnitudes of the components. Refer to first attachment for full problem with diagram.

Homework Equations


asinθ
bcosθ

The Attempt at a Solution


Please refer to attachments for attempt at solution, drawings of diagram involved. Could not get the correct answer solving the way in which I attempted, can anybody give me a hand solving it, answers in the book were:
f1u=205N, f2v=160N
 

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savva said:

Homework Statement


Resolve the force F1 into components acting along u and v axes and determine the magnitudes of the components. Refer to first attachment for full problem with diagram.

Homework Equations


asinθ
bcosθ

The Attempt at a Solution


Please refer to attachments for attempt at solution, drawings of diagram involved. Could not get the correct answer solving the way in which I attempted, can anybody give me a hand solving it, answers in the book were:
f1u=205N, f2v=160N
The axes are not orthogonal.

The angle you have labeled as 60° is 40°. 30° + 40° = 70° .

(F1)v is a vector that's parallel to the v axis.

(F1)u is a vector that's parallel to the u axis.

(F1)v + (F1)u = F1

Superimpose an xy axis system onto the uv system, if that helps you.
 


SammyS said:
The axes are not orthogonal.

The angle you have labeled as 60° is 40°. 30° + 40° = 70° .

(F1)v is a vector that's parallel to the v axis.

(F1)u is a vector that's parallel to the u axis.

(F1)v + (F1)u = F1

Superimpose an xy axis system onto the uv system, if that helps you.

Sorry, tried using the information you have given and can't seem to solve it still
 


Start with force vector F1. Your last drawing has the required angles labelled. What are the expressions for the u component of F1 and the v component of F1? Remember that u and v are not orthogonal (not at 90° to each other), so while the projection on one axis may be Fcos(θ), the projection on the other axis won't be Fsin(θ). Choose appropriate angles and use the cosine.
 


I managed to solve it guys, thanks for your help.
I used the parallelogram law to split up the vector into components and used sin law to find relevant information, so:

300/sin110=v/sin30
v=sin^-1(300sin30/sin110) = 160N

300/sin110=u/sin40 ---> u=sin^-1(300sin40/sin110) = 205N

Cheers
 

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