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The discussion revolves around determining the largest number \( k \) such that the system of equations \( a^2+b^2=1 \) and \( |a^3-b^3|+|a-b|=k^3 \) has a solution. The focus appears to be on mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to inequalities.

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  • Participants are tasked with finding the largest \( k \) under the given conditions.
  • Some participants mention using the AM-GM inequality as a method to approach the problem.
  • There are expressions of appreciation for contributions, indicating that some solutions have been deemed correct by others.

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While some participants express agreement on certain solutions, the overall discussion does not indicate a consensus on the largest value of \( k \) or the methods used to derive it.

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The discussion does not clarify specific assumptions or limitations regarding the values of \( a \) and \( b \) or the application of the AM-GM inequality.

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Determine the largest number $k$ such that system $a^2+b^2=1$, $|a^3-b^3|+|a-b|=k^3$ has a solution.
 
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anemone said:
Determine the largest number $k$ such that system $a^2+b^2=1$, $|a^3-b^3|+|a-b|=k^3---(1)$ has a solution.
from (1) we know that :$k\geq 0$
if $a=b$ then $k=0$
if $a>b$, we have :
$(a-b)(ab+2)=k^3=f(a,b)---(*)$
using lagrange-method:
we want to find:
$(a-b)(ab+2)+L(a^2+b^2-1)=max(f(a,b))$
we get $L=\dfrac {b-a}{2}=\dfrac {4ab+3}{2(b-a)}$
$\therefore ab=\dfrac {-1}{3}---(2)$
$a^2+b^2=1---(3)$
from (2)(3)$a-b=\sqrt{\dfrac {5}{3}}---(4)$
put (2)(4) to (*) and we get:
$k^3=\dfrac{5}{3}\times\sqrt{\dfrac{5}{3}}$
$k=\sqrt{\dfrac{5}{3}}$
if $b>a$
because of symmetry it will be the same
 
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Albert said:
from (1) we know that :$k\geq 0$
if $a=b$ then $k=0$
if $a>b$, we have :
$(a-b)(ab+2)=k^3=f(a,b)---(*)$
using lagrange-method:
we want to find:
$(a-b)(ab+2)+L(a^2+b^2-1)=max(f(a,b))$
we get $L=\dfrac {b-a}{2}=\dfrac {4ab+3}{2(b-a)}$
$\therefore ab=\dfrac {-1}{3}---(2)$
$a^2+b^2=1---(3)$
from (2)(3)$a-b=\sqrt{\dfrac {5}{3}}---(4)$
put (2)(4) to (*) and we get:
$k^3=\dfrac{5}{3}\times\sqrt{\dfrac{5}{3}}$
$k=\sqrt{\dfrac{5}{3}}$
if $b>a$
because of symmetry it will be the same

Thanks for participating and well done, Albert! Your answer is correct! Something tells me you really like to use the AM-GM to solve for problem such as this one and for your information, the solution that I have used the AM-GM to solve it as well...do you think you want to give AM-GM a try? Hehehe...:o
 
anemone said:
Thanks for participating and well done, Albert! Your answer is correct! Something tells me you really like to use the AM-GM to solve for problem such as this one and for your information, the solution that I have used the AM-GM to solve it as well...do you think you want to give AM-GM a try? Hehehe...:o
use AM-GM
$(a-b)^2=1-2ab$
$k^3=(a-b)(ab+2)=\sqrt {1-2ab}\times (ab+2)---(*)\leq\dfrac{(1-2ab)+(ab+2)^2}{2}$
$\therefore 1-2ab=ab+2,$ or $ab=\dfrac {-1}{3}$
put $ab=\dfrac {-1}{3} $to (*)we get:
$k=\sqrt {\dfrac {5}{3}}$
 
Albert said:
use AM-GM
$(a-b)^2=1-2ab$
$k^3=(a-b)(ab+2)=\sqrt {1-2ab}\times (ab+2)---(*)\leq\dfrac{(1-2ab)+(ab+2)^2}{2}$
$\therefore 1-2ab=ab+2,$ or $ab=\dfrac {-1}{3}$
put $ab=\dfrac {-1}{3} $to (*)we get:
$k=\sqrt {\dfrac {5}{3}}$

That's is it!(Yes) Thanks Albert for your second solution! :)
 

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