Determining EMF and Internal Resistance

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electromotive force (EMF) and internal resistance of a battery using two equations derived from Ohm's Law. The equations I1 = E/(R1 + r) and I2 = E/(R2 + r) are established, where I1 and I2 are the currents measured at different resistances (R1 = 4.0 Ohms and R2 = 6.0 Ohms). By substituting the known values into these equations, users can eliminate one variable to solve for the internal resistance (r) and EMF (E) of the battery. The method requires basic algebraic manipulation to equate the two expressions for EMF.

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Basically I have been given this question:

A battery of unknown EMF and internal resistance is connected in series with an ammeter and a resistance box. The current was 2.0A when R= 4.0 Ohms and 1.5A when R= 6.0 Ohms. Calculate the EMF and internal resistance.

I feel you may have to arrange this somehow although I am probably wrong:

Internal resistance = v1-v2/I2-I1


I have had no attempt at a solution as I am utterly confused by this question.

Thank you for reading.
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Hi joseppi, welcome to PF.
You have to write two equations for two resistances.
Use the equation
I = E/(R + r). Here r is the internal resistance.
Then solve for r.
 
Hi, sorry for me not having understood your instruction but how can I use the below equation for the answer if I have neither the: r or the E value?

I = E/(R + r)

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E in this case is the emf, which you can work out with Ohm's Law.
 
You can write two equations for two resistances. With two equations you can find two unknowns.
I1 = E/(R1 + r)-------(1)
I2 = E/(R2 + r)-------(2)
Substitute the values given in the problem. Try to eliminate one unknown to find the other unknown.
 
2A = ?E/ (4.0 Ohms + ?r)

1.5A = ?E/ (6.0 Ohms + ?r)

I'll be honest I am quite bad with Maths even though I take AS level physics. I have no clue how to eliminate the r or E unknown or even really how to move it around ;/ You couldn't explain how and why you do this? It would be a great help, thank you.
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From the first equation
E = 2A(4.0 Ohm + r)----(1)
Similarly from the second equation write E = ...---(2)
Equate eq 1 and 2, and solve for r.
 

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