Determining final temperature, pressure and work done

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving an ideal gas undergoing expansion through isothermal and adiabatic processes. The original poster presents calculations for final temperature, pressure, and work done by the gas, given specific initial conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for pressure and work done during the isothermal process, with some verifying values and others questioning the interpretation of work done by the gas during expansion.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, particularly regarding the values used for pressure and the interpretation of work done. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the final outcomes.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of exploration into the problem. There is also a focus on ensuring the correct application of thermodynamic principles in the context of reversible processes.

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hi guys I am swamp with work and have not been able to go through my assignments proper

1. one cube meter of an ideal gas at 600K and 1000Kpa expands to 5 times its initial volume: by mechanically reversible, isothermal process and by a mechanically reversible, adiabatic process


2.for each case calculate the final temperature, pressure, and the work done by the gas. take Cp= 21 J/mol.K



3. For isothermal process:
T2= 600
P1V1=P2V2
thus P2= (1*1000)/5 =200Kpa
W= -P1V1 ln V2/V1
= -(1000000000*1) ln (5/1)
= -1609.438 KJ
 
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P2 is ok.

Check the value of P1V1 in the calculation for the work.
 


P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000000 pa
V1= 1m^3

thus W using pa is equal to -1609.438 KJ
 


nombusoz said:
P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000000 pa

P1= 1000kpa = 1000*10^3 pa =1000000 pa
 
Your work looks good except that when a gas expands reversibly, the gas does a positive amount of work.

It's always important to distinguish between the work done on a system and the work done by the system.
 

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