Determining the Centroid of an Area: Statics Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around a statics homework problem focused on determining the centroid of a composite area, involving various geometric shapes. Participants are reviewing their calculations and comparing their results with a textbook answer.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculations for the x-coordinate of the centroid, which differ from the textbook answer, leading to questions about potential errors in their approach or the book's accuracy.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to calculate both x and y coordinates for the centroid, suggesting a method for determining the y-coordinate based on a reference axis.
  • A participant clarifies their method of dividing the shape into distinct areas and calculating the centroid based on those areas, noting that their friends obtained the same result, raising doubts about the textbook answer.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the textbook's correctness, especially given the significant difference in the calculated x-coordinate compared to the book's value.
  • There is a light-hearted acknowledgment of the number of participants who agree on the calculated answer versus the textbook answer, suggesting a collective confidence in their findings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the correctness of the textbook answer, as multiple individuals have arrived at the same calculated value for the x-coordinate of the centroid, which is significantly different from the book's answer. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which answer is correct.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the calculations for the y-coordinate, which may also impact the overall understanding of the centroid's position. There are indications of potential assumptions or methods that could lead to differing results, but these have not been fully articulated or resolved.

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Homework Statement



Determine The Centroid of The Area

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Homework Equations



x_centroid = [(Area of each piece)(Centroid of each piece)]/(Area of each piece)

The Attempt at a Solution



This seems like a really basic problem, I am just reviewing for my statics final on saturday. The only problem is that I keep getting a different answer than the book for the X centroid. I broke the shape up into different pieces (a square, rectangle and semi-circle) and am treating the cutout circle as negative area. I tried it using a different shapes and got the same answer. What am I doing wrong?

My work:

X_centroid = \frac{(40 mm)(6400 mm^2)+(120 mm)(9600 mm^2)+(120 mm)(1/2)(1600\pi mm^2)-(120 mm)(400\pi mm^2)}{(6400 mm^2)+(9600 mm^2)+(1/2)(1600\pi mm^2)-(400\pi mm^2)}

My Answer: 90.33 mm
Book Answer: 87.3 mm
 

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I am not following your numbers. The centroid must have an x and a y coordinate. To determine the y dimension, choose a convenient reference axis, like the bottom of the shape. The y centroid, as measured up from the base, is then determimed by adding up (or subtracting) the products of each individual area shape times the distance from its individual centroid to the base, then dividing that sum by the total area of the combined shape. To find the x coordinate, you proceed in a similar manner, except choose the right edge as the refrence axis about which you sum moment areas.
 
My calculations are for the X coordinate of the centroid with reference being the left edge of the shape. I divided it up into an 80x80 square for the left part, an 80x120 rectangle for the right with a semi-circle of with radius 40mm ontop of it. The cutout is a circle with radius 20mm. Its just the sum of the [(X centroid of each piece)*(Area of each piece)]/(Total Area of shape). I've had a couple of friends do this one and they got the same exact answer as well. So either we are all making the same mistake or the book is wrong.
 
OK, I get your answer for the x coordinate. I haven't done the math for the y coordinate. You need both values to define the centroid.
 
I got the Y centroid coordinate to work out to the books answer, so that one is all good. Its just that the X centroid coordinate that I have calculated is 90.33 mm, while the book says it should be 87.3 mm. So is the book wrong? (I don't think rounding error could account for a 6 mm difference in the answers)
 
if me, you, and your 2 friends get the same answer, I think we've got the book answer outnumbered by 4:1.:wink:
 
Make it 5 to 1!
 
Ok thanks for the help, just wanted to make sure I wasn't making a stupid mistake. Its so nice that my $120 textbook can't answer its own problems correctly. :mad:
 

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