Determining the specific heat capacity of water

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The discussion revolves around determining the specific heat capacity of water using a calorimeter, voltmeter, and ammeter. The original poster reports encountering a significant random error in the measurements from the voltmeter and ammeter during the experiment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the nature of the random error, questioning whether the readings fluctuated or changed gradually over time. Suggestions are made to plot the data to analyze the errors further. There are also inquiries about the stirring of water and the precision of the measuring instruments.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the setup and measurements. Some guidance has been offered regarding data analysis, but no consensus has been reached on the cause of the errors or how to address them.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the impact of measurement precision and the experimental setup, including whether the water was stirred during the experiment. The original poster has noted specific values for random errors and the conditions under which measurements were taken.

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Homework Statement


Hi,
I have an assignment to determine the specific heat capacity of water using a calorimeter, voltmeter and ammeter, where we connected the calorimeter to a 10V power pack and measured the temp of the water and the readings on the voltmeter and ammeter every minute. I ended up having a huge random error for the voltmeter and ammeter (3.01%) - any idea why this is?
Also what should I talk about in my discussion?

Homework Equations


To calculate the specific heat capacity I used
PΔt = mc(water)ΔT + mc(calorimeter)ΔT
and I got a value of 3.95 +- 3.45% J g-1 K-1
 
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What do you mean by a "huge random error for the voltmeter and ammeter"? Were the readings fluctuating up and down? Changed gradually over time?
 
Hi Juice, :welcome:

So you have three series of T, I and V as a function of time. It would be logical to plot them as a function of time to see if the errors are really random, or that there is more going on.
 
CWatters said:
What do you mean by a "huge random error for the voltmeter and ammeter"? Were the readings fluctuating up and down? Changed gradually over time?
We wrote down the measurements displayed on the ammeter and voltmeter every minute, until the water had increased by over 20K (it took 5 minutes). The readings on each fluctuated every time, and the random errors were 0.11A and 0.1V, which ended up being quite a large % error.
 
How do you know they were errors ?
 
BvU said:
Hi Juice, :welcome:

So you have three series of T, I and V as a function of time. It would be logical to plot them as a function of time to see if the errors are really random, or that there is more going on.
Alright, I'll try that.
Thank you BvU!
 
did you stir the water during the experiment?
 
+1 to the questions above.

Also..

How many digits could the meters display? 10.1V is three significant digits. Could it display 10.05V or is 10.1V the nearest it can get?
What was a typical current? Something like 3.11A is also three significant digits.
 

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