Determining the Speed of a Cylinder in a Cable and Pulley System

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The problem involves a cable and pulley system used to lift a cylinder. The original poster seeks to determine the speed of the cylinder given that a point on the cable is being drawn toward the drum at a specified speed.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the speeds of the cable and the cylinder, questioning the correctness of their calculations and interpretations of the system's behavior.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved. Some participants have offered alternative approaches to the problem, and there is recognition of potential misinterpretations of the system's mechanics.

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Participants are navigating through assumptions about the direction of movement and the relationships between the distances and speeds in the system. There is a mention of the total length of the string being constant, which may influence their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



The cylinder C is being lifted using the cable and pulley system shown. If point A on the cable is being drawn toward the drum with a speed of 2 m/s, determine the speed of the cylinder.

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Homework Equations



2s_{A} + s_{b} = l

The Attempt at a Solution



I set my points to this:

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I don't think its right because I am getting a negative number when it should be positive.

2s_{A} + s_{b} = l

2v_{A} + v_{b} = 0

v_{b} = -2(2m/s) = -4 m/s This would mean that the cylinder is going down not up.
 
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KillerZ said:
The cylinder C is being lifted using the cable and pulley system shown. If point A on the cable is being drawn toward the drum with a speed of 2 m/s, determine the speed of the cylinder.

I don't think its right because I am getting a negative number when it should be positive.

This would mean that the cylinder is going down not up.

Hi KillerZ! :wink:

I think the cylinder does go down when the cable is drawn up.

But I don't think it's 2:1.

Try using sc instead of sb, where sc is the distance between the two lowest pulleys …

and use the fact that the total length of the string is constant. :smile:
 
So sc would be like this the difference between s1 and s2?

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Yes. :smile:
 
I got it:

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s_{B} + (s_{b} - h) + (s_{B} - h - s_{A}) = l

3s_{B} - s_{A} - 2h = l

3v_{B} - v_{A} - 0 = 0

v_{B} = -v_{A}/3 = -0.667m/s = 0.667m/s up
 
Hi KillerZ! :smile:

Yes, except it's +vA/3.

(ignore what I said originally … I misread the diagram … the cylinder does go up! :redface:)
 

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