Did I Prove the Vector Proof Assignment Correctly?

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to vector mathematics, specifically demonstrating that the magnitudes of the difference and sum of two non-zero vectors are equal if and only if the vectors are perpendicular. The original poster, Evan, expresses concern about the validity of their proof method and the potential for losing marks due to perceived irrelevance in their reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Evan describes their approach using the dot product to derive the relationship between the vectors and questions whether their method is sound. They also inquire about the necessity of proving the statement in both directions for an "if and only if" condition.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm that Evan's approach appears valid, noting that while there may be unnecessary lines, the proof structure is acceptable. There is a consensus on the importance of proving both directions for the "if and only if" statement, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Evan expresses anxiety about the assignment's grading criteria, particularly regarding the inclusion of what they perceive as irrelevant lines versus the necessity of completeness in their proof.

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Hi there, I had an assignment due today for my advanced maths class, I've already handed it in, but seeing what other people did I began to worry/wonder about what I did.

The question was pretty simple:

For non-zero vectors show that:
|a - b| = |a + b| if and only if venctors a and b are perpendicular.

I defined them both as different single letters, just to make things easier.
a + b = c
a - b = dThen I used the dot product on them both:

c^2 = (a + b) o (a + b)
c^2 = |a + b| |a + b| cos A
c^2 = a^2 + b^2 + 2ab cos A

In this case A is the angle opposite vector c, ie. the angle between vectors a and b.

d^2 = (a - b) o (a - b)
d^2 = |a - b| |a - b| cos B
d^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab cos B

In this case B is the angle opposite vector d, ie. the angle between vectors a and -b.

I then said that in order for |c| to equal |d| the following would have to be true:
cos A = cos B = 0 because otherwise you would have to add/subtract.

Of course it follows from this that A = B = 90 hence a and b are perpendicular if |c| = |d|

I think it's pretty easy to see from that that if they're perpendicular then |c| = |d|, but my maths teachers don't take kindly to the "no duh" argument, they claim that's what proof is all about, so i proved it backwards to show the if and only if statement.

My question is: other people did it using the dot product in a different way to me, does my method make sense? Also, should I have proved it backwards? I could lose marks for having irrelevant lines, but I could've lot lines for missing lines, it's a fine line.

Worried about this because when I did it it was a really easy assignment and I don't want to mess it up :(

Thanks,
Evan

Alright, I removed the tex formatting, as it was too confusing for me.
 
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The way you did it looks good to me. It's a little confusing since you have more lines than are really necessary when showing what c2 and d2 are, but other than that, it looks fine.

Yes, you should have proven it backwards, because it's an iff statement. Even if it looks obvious that one way implies the other, you should show it
 
Well, thanks for your answers, didn't notice that other thread, that was useful too :smile:

Incidently, I also got the second part of that question today.
 
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