Did Maxwell truly follow Faraday's views in his theory?

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Maxwell's adaptation of Faraday's theories is often viewed as a faithful development, but it is noted that he significantly altered Faraday's original framework, particularly by introducing concepts like the ether, which Faraday explicitly rejected. This divergence has not been adequately addressed in historical discussions or by subsequent theorists. The conversation raises questions about how a mathematical treatment aligned with Faraday's views would look, suggesting that modern field theorists may overlook his theoretical contributions. The distinction between matter and fields is highlighted, with Faraday seeing them as the same, while Maxwell treated them as separate entities. The importance of acknowledging historical scientific ideas is emphasized, as many have not been fully developed or recognized. References to works by Joseph Agassi and L. Pearce Williams are provided for further exploration of Faraday's philosophy. The thread also touches on the historical context of Maxwell's life and the potential he had for early theories of relativity, noting the timing of his death relative to Einstein's early life.
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Although it is usually stated and taught that Maxwell developed pretty faithfully Faraday's views and experimental work into a mathematically solid theory, it is probably not widely known this is actually only partially correct, as Maxwell in fact changed much of Faraday's original theoretical framework in favor of his own(for example the ether idea that Faraday rejected explicitly), which is understandable since he was not obliged to follow them, regardless his true admiration for the figure of Faraday. But nevertheless this theoretical breach was almost concealed or not sufficiently addressed at least by him and posterior theorists and historians of science.
For info on Faraday see for instance the well known works of Agassi and Williams.

I wonder what a mathematical treatment trully faithful to Faraday's original views would look like, but I don't think modern field theorists are much interested on his theoric work.
 
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Are you not mixing up interpretation and theory?
The scaffoldings that Maxwell needed have been removed long ago.
Could you be more specific?
And why would history matter from a scientific point of view?
 
maajdl said:
Are you not mixing up interpretation and theory?
I don't think I'm interpreting, the writings of Faraday and the references I gave are easily accessible.
The scaffoldings that Maxwell needed have been removed long ago.
Sure, by Einstein's relativity.
Could you be more specific?
Yes, for instance matter and fields were the same thing in Faraday's view but distinct in Maxwell's. Einstein apparently tended more to Faraday's view in this respect.
And why would history matter from a scientific point of view?
Not history, scientific ideas regardless of the time they were formulated should matter from a scientific point of view, more so when they have not been fully acknowledged and developed.
 
But to me, the well-known works of Agassi and Williams are totally unknown!
On Google, it returned me tennis information!
Could you give me the exact references?
 
maajdl said:
But to me, the well-known works of Agassi and Williams are totally unknown!
On Google, it returned me tennis information!
Could you give me the exact references?
Ha Ha, sorry about that!
"Faraday as a Natural Philosopher"(University of Chicago Press) by Joseph Agassi
"Michael Faraday: A Biography"(Basic Books) by L. Pearce Williams
"Experimental Researches in Electricity" by Michael Faraday


In any case I didn't intend the thread as a history discussion, but a physics one. I didn't even know this subforum existed and looking at the other threads mine feels really misplaced here. I guess one could fit it in a more specific "Physics history" subforum, but oddly enough for a Physics forums there isn't any.
 
Maxwell was a smart man he could have found the theory of relativity before Einstein but he unfortunately died very soon
 
Maxwell died in November 1879 at 48.
Einstein was then 8 months old.
In 1905, Einstein was 26.
 
48 is a young age you see...
 
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