Difference between AC and DC current

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC), exploring their characteristics, practical applications, and implications for electrical safety. Participants delve into the behavior of electrons in both types of current and the reasons for the use of AC in power transmission.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that AC varies sinusoidally over time, while DC remains steady.
  • One participant elaborates on how in AC, electrons change direction, with a frequency of 50Hz in the UK and 60Hz in the US.
  • Another participant notes that AC is preferred for long-distance power transmission due to its ability to step up and down voltage, minimizing resistive losses.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of AC's alternating direction, questioning how this affects electrical shocks when touching live wires versus neutral or ground wires.
  • Some participants clarify that the live wire alternates between positive and negative voltages, while the neutral wire is effectively grounded.
  • One participant emphasizes that touching the live wire while grounded can result in a shock due to the potential difference, while touching neutral and ground does not cause a shock.
  • There are discussions about the wiring configurations in the US, including the roles of hot, neutral, and ground wires, and the potential for miswiring.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that the neutral wire does not carry current, stating that it carries the same current as the hot wire in certain appliances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the behavior of AC and DC, the implications for electrical safety, and the specifics of wiring configurations. There is no consensus on some technical details, particularly regarding the behavior of neutral wires and the conditions under which shocks occur.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about wiring standards and practices that may vary by region. There are also unresolved questions about the specifics of electrical shock mechanisms in AC systems.

  • #31
Nam_Sapper said:
I think he means that if an appliance is turned on, it acts as a resistor connected to the hot power line and so can deliver an electric shock. Likewise, if an appliance is plugged in and turned on, the 'neutral' (U.S.'return') is 'hot' too, if not properly grounded or some distance from ground. So if you put a knife in an English (240v) toaster and and grab the radiator with your other hand, zap.

The US National Electrical Code requires that the neutral conductor be grounded at the service entrance (residential use). It is NOT hot with respect to Earth except for the small voltage drop across it due to its impedance. This is UNIVERSALLY true regardless of which country you reside in; a current carrying conductor will never be at the same potential as the safety-grounding conductor if it is carrying current except at the bonding point.

There are specific circumstances where it is necessary to isolate the system from ground as in operating suites, gas stations, grain silos; anyplace where a spark to ground my ignite an explosive atmosphere i.e., anesthetics, gasoline fumes, grain dust. This is usually accomplished by using an isolation transformer whose secondary windings produce the desired voltage(s) and are maintained to assure both current carrying conductors have at least 1megohm of impedance to ground. The floor of the operating suite must be conductive to ground (forget the maximum impedance) to dissipate static charges. You can, I have done so, grasp one of the conductors in an operating suite (one that uses explosive anethetics) and intentionally Earth one’s self. There are micro amps of current flow through the body but no perceptual shock. Yes I do know that micro amps may cause cardiac fibrillation but why that does NOT happen is a function of current density, not total current flow.

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