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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived difference between the expressions x^{1/2} and √x, particularly in the context of real numbers and quadratic equations. Participants explore whether these expressions are equivalent or if there are distinctions based on the nature of the numbers involved.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that x^{1/2} and √x are the same when x is a nonnegative real number, as both yield a single nonnegative result y such that y² = x.
  • Others suggest that there is a distinction, particularly when considering negative or complex values of x, where √x is defined as a positive single-value real number, while x^{1/2} does not carry this restriction.
  • A participant mentions that advanced mathematics, especially complex analysis, may define these expressions differently, implying that context matters.
  • One participant references branch cuts in complex analysis, indicating that the evaluation of x^{1/2} requires careful definition to avoid incorrect results.
  • Several posts include humorous remarks about the teacher's absence and the timing of their explanation, but these do not contribute to the mathematical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that for real and positive x, there is no difference between x^{1/2} and √x. However, there is disagreement regarding the implications for negative or complex x, with some asserting a technical difference while others maintain that the two expressions are equivalent in the context discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the nuances of definitions in advanced mathematics, particularly concerning complex numbers and branch cuts, which remain unresolved. Participants have not yet studied hyperbolic functions, indicating a limitation in their understanding of certain mathematical concepts related to the topic.

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We were having our maths class a weeks ago and while studying quadratic equations our teacher asked us if there was an difference between [tex]x^{1/2}[/tex] and [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex].

Up until then I had always assumed them to be the same thing. However he said that there was a difference and said that he would tell us the answer later. But due to some reason he had to leave town. I have been wondering ever sine then but couldn't find anything.

Could anyone help? What is the difference?

Thank You.
 
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mishrashubham said:
We were having our maths class a weeks ago and while studying quadratic equations our teacher asked us if there was an difference between [tex]x^{1/2}[/tex] and [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex].
In my view they are exactly the same. Let me stipulate that we're talking about real numbers x, with x >= 0. Each expression evaluates to a single, nonnegative number y such that y2 = x.

Some people mistakenly believe that [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] represents two numbers: one positive and one negative.
mishrashubham said:
Up until then I had always assumed them to be the same thing. However he said that there was a difference and said that he would tell us the answer later. But due to some reason he had to leave town. I have been wondering ever sine then but couldn't find anything.

Could anyone help? What is the difference?

Thank You.
 
In my understanding, they are the exact same thing too. Note that there may be authors in advanced mathematics (mostly complex analysis) that will define things such that the two things are not equal. However, when doing quadratic equations and other real stuff, there is not difference...
 
I always find it suspicious when people have to leave town.
 
SteamKing said:
I always find it suspicious when people have to leave town.
Especially just before they're about to tell us about the difference between x1/2 and [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex].:smile:
 
I got to use that excuse someday:

Hey, I've found an incredibly beautiful proof that there are not nontrivial integer solutions to [tex]x^n+y^n=z^n[/tex]. But I have to leave town...
 
If x is real and positive, there's no difference. If x is negative or complex, there is a technical difference. The notation [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex] is a positive, singled-value real number. [itex]x^{1/2}[/itex] does not carry this distinction. You have to define your choice of branch cut, and then you can evaluate the result. This, at least, is the convention that Churchill and Brown use, if I recall correctly. For example, the inverse hyperbolic functions are

[tex]\mbox{arcosh}(z) = \log(z + (z+1)^{1/2}(z-1)^{1/2})[/tex]
where you cannot simplify [itex](z+1)^{1/2}(z-1)^{1/2} = (z^2-1)^{1/2}[/itex], as this will give the wrong result for the chosen branch cut. (The wiki page for inverse hyperbolic functions uses the [itex]\sqrt{\.}[/itex] notation, but I don't think that's standard.)
 
SteamKing said:
I always find it suspicious when people have to leave town.

Mark44 said:
Especially just before they're about to tell us about the difference between x1/2 and [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex].:smile:

micromass said:
I got to use that excuse someday:

Hey, I've found an incredibly beautiful proof that there are not nontrivial integer solutions to [tex]x^n+y^n=z^n[/tex]. But I have to leave town...

Haha, I was expecting that. Anyways, if you think its an excuse, you may happily assume so if it adds to your amusement.

Thank you.
 
Mute said:
If x is real and positive, there's no difference. If x is negative or complex, there is a technical difference. The notation [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex] is a positive, singled-value real number. [itex]x^{1/2}[/itex] does not carry this distinction. You have to define your choice of branch cut, and then you can evaluate the result. This, at least, is the convention that Churchill and Brown use, if I recall correctly. For example, the inverse hyperbolic functions are

[tex]\mbox{arcosh}(z) = \log(z + (z+1)^{1/2}(z-1)^{1/2})[/tex]
where you cannot simplify [itex](z+1)^{1/2}(z-1)^{1/2} = (z^2-1)^{1/2}[/itex], as this will give the wrong result for the chosen branch cut. (The wiki page for inverse hyperbolic functions uses the [itex]\sqrt{\.}[/itex] notation, but I don't think that's standard.)

Thanks for the reply. We have not yet studied hyperbolic functions so I don't think I understood that bit. But I understood that as far as real numbers are concerned both are the same thing.
Thank you
 

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