Differentiability + Continuity?

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The problem involves analyzing the differentiability and continuity of the function defined piecewise by f(x) = |x|^a x sin(1/x) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0. The original poster seeks to determine the values of a for which f is differentiable at x=0 and for which f' is continuous across R.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the definition of the derivative at x=0 and the implications of limits involving a. There is exploration of the conditions under which f' is continuous and the necessity of considering cases for x>0 and x<0. Some participants question the correctness of expressions for f' and the assumptions about the values of a.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the values of a being explored. Some participants suggest that a must be greater than or equal to 2, while others propose a greater than 1. There is no explicit consensus on the correct conditions for differentiability or continuity, and participants are encouraged to clarify their reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding whether a should be considered a natural number and how this affects the continuity and differentiability of the function. Participants are also examining the implications of differentiating the function in different cases for x.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a>0 is some constant and f:R->R is given by
f(x) = |x|^a x sin(1/x) if x is not 0
f(x) = 0 if x=0

for which values of a is f differentiable at x=0? Use calculus to determine f'(x) for x is not equal to 0. For what values of a is f' a continuous function defined on R? Justify your answer

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The Attempt at a Solution


when f is not 0, f'(x) = a|x|^(a-1) x sin (1/x) - a.|x|^(a-2) x cos (1/x)
so f' is continuous for a>2 where a is a natural number??

what about when x=0?
for what values of a is f differentiable? is it all a in the real numbers?Dif
 
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apply the definition of the derivative at x=0. set y=1/x and then take the limit as y goes to infinity. this limit exists of a >=2 otherwise it obviously does not. i think this is true check it.
 
oh wait, a >1
 
so when x=0, a>1 ?

then is a>2 when x is not 0 correct?
 
when x is not equal to 0, do we have to consider x>0 and x<0?
will that make a difference to the value of a?
so is a>1 or a>=2? and a has to be a natural number right? my friends and I have been discussing this and we don't know who is right...

what about when x=0? is f(x)=0 so a can be anything?
 
oh and is it correct to use the algebra of continuous function?
after differentiating f,
assuming cos and sin are continuous function, cos + sin is continuous
we know that x^n where n is a natural number including 0 is continuous
therefore consider the power to the x
which is a-2 and a-1
then a-2 >= o and a-1>=o
we have a>=2 and a>=1
then choose maximum and get a>=2
and a>=2 is the same as a>1 right? if we consider a to be a natural number
 
Um what, are you guys guessing values of a.

First of all, your expression for f'(x) when x is not 0 is incorrect. When x > 0,

[tex]f(x) = x^{a+1} \sin\left(\frac{1}{x}\right),[/tex]

and you need to differentiate this expression to determine f'(x) for x > 0.

For differentiability at 0, apply the definition of f'(0)

[tex]f'(0) = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x) - f(0)}{x} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{|x|^a x\sin\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)}{x} = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} |x|^a \sin\left(\frac{1}{x}\right).[/tex]

Try proving rigorously that this last limit is 0 for any a > 0 (the squeeze theorem would be good here). Note that generally, a is never assumed to be a natural number in these kinds of problems.
 
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I've forgotten to consider 2 cases when x>0 and x<0
when x>0, f' = -x^(a-2) cos (1/x) + ax&(a-1) sin (1/x)
when x<0, f' = x^(a-2) cos (1/x) - ax&(a-1) sin (1/x)

are these correct? do we apply algebra of continuous function here?
and that a>1 or a>=2?
are these two equivalent?
 

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