Differentiability of function at only 0

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The discussion centers on proving that the function defined as x^2 for rational x and 0 for irrational x is only differentiable at 0. The derivative at 0 is evaluated using the limit definition, leading to the conclusion that f'(0) exists since both rational and irrational sequences approaching 0 yield the same limit. However, to establish that the function is not differentiable at any other point, it is emphasized that the function's discontinuity at points other than 0 prevents differentiability there. The key takeaway is that a function must be continuous at a point to be differentiable, and this function fails to meet that criterion elsewhere. Thus, the function is only differentiable at 0.
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1. function is x^2 if x is rational 0 if x is irrational. I need to prove that function is only differentiable at 0.
2. f'(x)=lim(h->0)=(f(x+h)-f(x))/h
3. fruitless attempt-----> So f'(0)=lim(h->0) f(h)/h=lim(h->0)x since it's 0 when irrational and x when rational, 0 when irrational, x=0. thanks.
 
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attempt attempt! I'm only letting you know ahead of time b/c when someone who can actually help you reads your post and sees no attempt, they'll say the same thing I'm telling you right now. so I'm saving you time :-]
 
helpmeppl said:
1. function is x^2 if x is rational 0 if x is irrational. I need to prove that function is only differentiable at 0.



2. f'(x)=lim(h->0)=(f(x+h)-f(x))/h
This is, indeed, the expression for the function value of f' at some particular value x.
Insofar as if it exists.

How, in particular, does it look if x=0?

That is, how must f'(0) look like?

IF f'(0) exists, then, since f(0)=0, we must have:
f'(0)=\lim_{h\to{0}}\frac{f(h)}{h}

Now, to make some headway:
Consider a sequence of RATIONAL numbers h converging upon 0; what is the limit of f(h)/h then? Does such a limit exist?

Make a similar converging sequence consisting solely of irrationals h. What is now the limit of f(h)/h?


Can you conclude anything from this?
 
that proves that the function is differentiable when x=0, but how can i prove that that's the only x that satisfies f's differentiability. thanks.
 
for the proof that it's only differentiable at 0, can proving that the function is not continuous everywhere except zero sufficient?
 
helpmeppl said:
for the proof that it's only differentiable at 0, can proving that the function is not continuous everywhere except zero sufficient?
Certainly; a function cannot be differentiable at any point upon which it is discontinuous.

This follows from the fact that the numerator in the limit expression for the derivative MUST go to zero in order for the fraction not to diverge.

But that the numerator must go to zero, i.e \lim_{h\to{0}}f(x+h)-f(x)=0 is equivalent to requiring the function to be continuous at x.
 
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