Differential Eq: Inverse Laplace Transforms

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The discussion revolves around solving differential equations using inverse Laplace transforms. The original poster presents two specific problems involving second-order linear differential equations with given initial conditions.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Laplace transform to the equations but encounters difficulties with partial fraction decomposition and the transformation of certain terms.
  • Some participants suggest methods for separating terms and completing the square for the second equation's denominator.
  • Questions arise regarding the handling of coefficients in partial fractions and the implications of imaginary numbers in the context of the second equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, providing hints and suggestions for approaching the inverse Laplace transforms. There is recognition of errors in the original poster's calculations, and some guidance has been offered on how to proceed with the transformations.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the application of techniques from earlier mathematics, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge relevant to the current problems.

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Homework Statement



I have a couple of problems that I am stuck on. The following:

y'' - 6y' + 9y = t
y(0) = 0
y'(0) = 1

and

y'' - 6y' + 13y = 0
y(0) = 0
y'(0) = -3

Homework Equations



y'' = s2Y(s) - sf(0) - f'(0)
y' = sY(s) - f(0)
y = Y(s)


The Attempt at a Solution



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for the first one:

once I substitute into the original equation, I can move things around and I came out with the following:
Y(s){s2-6s+9} = (1 +s2)/s2

So I get Y(s) = (1+s2)/s2(s-3)2

IIRC for partial fractions it should be the following: A/(s-3) + B/(s-3)2 + (Cs+D)/s2

I don't know if this is where i messed up but I got:
A=-2/27
B=-1/9
C=2/27
D=1/9

as a final result I get:
-2/27e^3t - 1/92e^3t and the other part (Cs + D)/s^2 . . .I can't find any way to transform that

the back of the book says:
1/9t + 2/27 - 2/27e^3t + 10/9te^3t

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The second one:

Starting by substitution, plugging in the values and solving for Y(s)

Y(s) = -3/(s2-6s + 13)

and well. . I am lost from this point onwards. . .I don't remember how to do partial fractions if you can't factorize that denominator. And the quadratic formula (A=1 B = 6 C=13) gives imaginary numbers

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Thank you!
 
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Gogeta007 said:
as a final result I get:
-2/27e^3t - 1/92e^3t and the other part (Cs + D)/s^2 . . .I can't find any way to transform that.
You just have to separate it into individual terms.

[tex]\frac{Cs+D}{s^2} = \frac{C}{s} + \frac{D}{s^2}[/tex]

Also, according to Mathematica, you should have B=10/9. The other coefficients you found are correct.
 
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Gogeta007 said:
The second one:

Starting by substitution, plugging in the values and solving for Y(s)

Y(s) = -3/(s2-6s + 13)

and well. . I'm lost from this point onwards. . .I don't remember how to do partial fractions if you can't factorize that denominator. And the quadratic formula (A=1 B = 6 C=13) gives imaginary numbers.
Complete the square in the bottom so you get something that looks like

[tex]Y(s) = -\frac{3}{(s-a)^2+b^2}[/tex]

You should be able to find the inverse of that using the tables and the properties of Laplace transforms.
 
wow. . .I can't believe I missed that. . .how does really old math comes back and haunt you huh?. . .thanks a lot
 

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