Differential equation right hand function

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation with the auxiliary equation given as (D^2 + D - 2) = (e^x)/(x). Participants are required to use the method of variation of parameters to find the particular solution.

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  • Participants discuss the complementary function, with one stating it as yc = c1e-x + c2e-2x. There are attempts to apply the variation of parameters formula, leading to questions about the integrability of the expression ∫e3x / x. Some participants express uncertainty about whether this integral can be computed, while others point out potential mistakes in the function used in the variation of parameters.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants questioning the correctness of the functions used and the feasibility of integrating certain expressions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formula, but no consensus has been reached on the resolution of the integral issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the expression ∫e3x / x does not have an elementary antiderivative, and there are discussions about the implications of potential mistakes in the variation of parameters formula. Additionally, there are reminders about forum etiquette regarding language use.

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Homework Statement


The question specifies the auxiliary equation given is (D^2 + D - 2) = (e^x)/(x)
the method of variation of parameter must be used to find the particular solution to the right hand function. then finally the general soultion should be stated.

Homework Equations


variation of paremeters formula.
yp = -y1∫y2 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))
+ y2∫y1 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))

The Attempt at a Solution


i had solved the complementary function and had gotten yc = c1e-x + c2e-2x. then after applying the formula for variation of parameters i had gotten e-x*lnx/3 - e-2x/3 * ∫e3x / x
i cannot obtain an integral for ∫e3x / x i don't think it can be done have tried various mathods eg by parts, there are no suitable substitutions is it that there is no integral for the expression? i.e. it cannot be integrated.
 
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Doubell said:

Homework Statement


The question specifies the auxiliary equation given is (D^2 + D - 2) = (e^x)/(x)
the method of variation of parameter must be used to find the particular solution to the right hand function. then finally the general soultion should be stated.


Homework Equations


variation of paremeters formula.
yp = -y1∫y2 * g(x)/ (w(y11 , y2))
+ y2∫y1 * g(x)/ (w(y11 , y2))

The Attempt at a Solution


i had solved the complementary function and had gotten yc = c1e-x + c2e-2x. then after applying the formula for variation of parameters i had gotten e-x*lnx/3 - e-2x/3 * ∫e3x / x
i cannot obtain an integral for ∫e3x / x i don't think it can be done have tried various mathods eg by parts, there are no suitable substitutions is it that there is no integral for the expression? i.e. it cannot be integrated.

I haven't worked through this problem, but you are correct that ##\frac {e^{3x}} x## does not have an elementary antiderivative.
 
Doubell said:

Homework Statement


The question specifies the auxiliary equation given is (D^2 + D - 2) = (e^x)/(x)
the method of variation of parameter must be used to find the particular solution to the right hand function. then finally the general soultion should be stated.


Homework Equations


variation of paremeters formula.
yp = -y1∫y2 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))
+ y2∫y1 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))

The Attempt at a Solution


i had solved the complementary function and had gotten yc = c1e-x + c2e-2x.
You have a mistake. What you have as e-x should be e+x. The other one is fine.
Doubell said:
then after applying the formula for variation of parameters i had gotten e-x*lnx/3 - e-2x/3 * ∫e3x / x
i cannot obtain an integral for ∫e3x / x i don't think it can be done have tried various mathods eg by parts, there are no suitable substitutions is it that there is no integral for the expression? i.e. it cannot be integrated.
 
Mark44 said:
You have a mistake. What you have as e-x should be e+x. The other one is fine.
yes it is as u say but the problem still remains the same the∫e3x/x would still have to be determined
 
Doubell said:
yes it is as u say but the problem still remains the same the∫e3x/x would still have to be determined
But if you have an incorrect function in your variation of parameters formula, you'll definitely get the wrong answer.

Also, "textspeak" (such as "u" for "you") isn't permitted here at PF.

Please show your work in this formula:
Doubell said:
yp = -y1∫y2 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))
+ y2∫y1 * g(x)/ (w(y1 , y2))
 

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