Differential equation with Fourier Transform

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation involving Fourier transforms, specifically focusing on the equation ##y^{'} + axy = 0## and its implications for eigenfunctions of the Fourier transform. Participants explore the conditions under which the solution to the differential equation can be considered an eigenfunction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the differential equation in the context of Fourier transforms, questioning the correctness of signs and notation. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the original equation and its Fourier transformed version, as well as the conditions for eigenfunctions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's interpretations and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the notation and the need to express the equations in consistent variable terms. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions for the parameter ##a## without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original problem statement advises against solving the differential equation directly, which influences the direction of the discussion. There is also mention of potential sign errors and the need for careful notation in expressing the relationships between the functions involved.

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Homework Statement


Without solving the differential equation, find the differential equation that solves Fourier transformation of given differential equation for ##a>0##.
a) ##y^{'}+axy=0##
b) For what ##a## is the solution of part a) an eigenfunction of Fourier Transform

Homework Equations



##f(x)## ...---... ##F(f)(\xi )=\int _{-\infty }^{\infty }f(x)e^{-2\pi i x\xi } dx##

The Attempt at a Solution



I have to apologize in advance. The instructions are weird even in my language, I can't imagine how horrible they sound in English.

##F(y^{'})=2\pi i \xi F(y)##

and ##F(axy)=\int _{-\infty }^{\infty }axy(x)e^{-2\pi i x\xi } dx=\frac{a}{-2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}F(y)##

The differential equation is than: ##2\pi i \xi F(y)-\frac{a}{-2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}F(y)=0##.

That should be the answer to part a).
part b):

Here is where I have problems. For eigenfunctions ##F(y)=y##.

##2\pi i \xi y-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}y=0##

Therefore ##y=exp(-\frac{2\pi ^2}{a}\xi ^2)##.

Now this has to be wrong... So, my question? How do I find the answer for part b).
 
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skrat said:
The differential equation is than: ##2\pi i \xi F(y)-\frac{a}{-2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}F(y)=0##.

That should be the answer to part a).
This is almost correct. Check that negative sign. (maybe it's just a typo).
 
skrat said:
##2\pi i \xi y-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}y=0##
I agree with this bit. (the extra negative sign has disappeared compared to before). The notation is a little bit fast & loose. But I see what you're saying.
 
skrat said:
Therefore ##y=exp(-\frac{2\pi ^2}{a}\xi ^2)##.
I thought the question told you not to try to solve the differential equation. You don't need to do this to find out what 'a' must be, for the eigenfunction. You already have
[tex]y^{'}+axy=0[/tex]
And you now have the equation
[tex]2\pi i \xi y-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}y=0[/tex]
so what does 'a' need to be, to ensure that both equations are true?
 
Oh, sorry, there is a sign error, yes!

To ensure both equations ##a^2=\frac{4\pi ^2\xi }{x}##.
 
Well, this is where the notation was a bit too fast & loose. You had
[tex]2\pi i \xi F(\xi)-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial \xi}F(\xi)=0[/tex]
Where I am explicitly showing that ##F(\xi )## is a function of ##\xi##. It is clear that ##F## is the Fourier transform of ##y## So you don't need to keep writing ##F(y)## to show this.
Anyway, for eigenfunctions of the Fourier transform, we have ##F(x) = y(x)## i.e. the functions are the same for every value of the same variable ##x##. But what you have in the above equation is ##F(\xi )## so you first need to re-write the above equation, in terms of ##x## instead of ##\xi##.
 
BruceW said:
But what you have in the above equation is ##F(\xi )## so you first need to re-write the above equation, in terms of ##x## instead of ##\xi##.

Ok. And how do I do that?
 
simple change of variables for the equation. hehe, I think you're over-thinking it.
 
:D Just a bit :D

##2\pi i x F(x)-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial x}F(x)=2\pi i x y(x)-\frac{a}{2\pi i}\frac{\partial }{\partial x}y(x)=0##

and taking in mind that ##y^{'}+axy=0##,

than ##a^2=4\pi ^2##.
 
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yep. looks good. and they say ##a>0## so now you have the answer!
 
  • #11
Perfect!

Thanks a lot!
 

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