Differential equations (application)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving differential equations, specifically in the context of modeling rabbit population dynamics affected by reproduction rates and disease-related mortality.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the differential equation representing rabbit population growth and the impact of a disease causing rabbit deaths. Questions arise about the correct formulation of the equation and the interpretation of variables over time.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to set up the differential equation correctly, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps and the reasoning behind the changes in the equation. There appears to be ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants note the importance of defining variables correctly and the implications of the disease on the population model. There is mention of specific numerical values related to the population and the rate of deaths, which are critical to the problem's context.

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hi, i have difficulties in this question... can you teach me how to get the ans please... i don't have the ans . this involved differential equations

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So... Quick note for the beginning step of the problem. You've defined x as the number of rabbits at a given time. But, remember, x is a function of t - x changes with time. You correctly set up the differential equation (i.e. dx(t)/dt=kx(t) ), but just stare at that real quick and see what it tells you. You have a function of t whose derivative with respect to t is just the same function multiplied by k. What function has the property that when you differentiate it, you get back the same thing, multiplied by a constant?
 
How should o proceed then??
 
First you are told that the reproduction rate of the rabbits is proportional to the number of rabbits. Yes, that is the same as dx/dt= kx. You can use the fact that the number of rabbits doubled in 5 years (60 months) to determine k.

But then you are told that "an outbreak of a certain disease caused the death of 100 rabbits per month". I see that you have let "y" be the "number of deaths". Since that is constant at 100 per month, I wouldn't do that. Rather, I would say, as long as t is the time measured in months, dx/dt= kx- 100. And, since we are told, at the time this disease began the rabbits had "doubled to 10000", I would take t= 0 at the time the disease began and x(0)= 10000, not 5000.

Solve that equation for x(t). Then, since you are asked for the number of rabbits two years after the outbreak of the disease, and t is in months, find x(24).
 
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First you are told that the reproduction rate of the rabbits is proportional to the number of rabbits. Yes, that is the same as dx/dt= kx. You can use the fact that the number of rabbits doubled in 5 years (60 months) to determine k.

But then you are told that "an outbreak of a certain disease caused the death of 100 rabbits per month". I see that you have let "y" be the "number of deaths". Since that is constant at 100 per month, I wouldn't do that. Rather, I would say, as long as t is the time measured in months, dx/dt= kx- 100. And, since we are told, at the time this disease began the rabbits had "doubled to 10000", I would take t= 0 at the time the disease began and x(0)= 10000, not 5000.

Solve that equation for x(t). Then, since you are asked for the number of rabbits two years after the outbreak of the disease, and t is in months, find x(24).

do u mean this?
 

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HallsofIvy said:
First you are told that the reproduction rate of the rabbits is proportional to the number of rabbits. Yes, that is the same as dx/dt= kx. You can use the fact that the number of rabbits doubled in 5 years (60 months) to determine k.

But then you are told that "an outbreak of a certain disease caused the death of 100 rabbits per month". I see that you have let "y" be the "number of deaths". Since that is constant at 100 per month, I wouldn't do that. Rather, I would say, as long as t is the time measured in months, dx/dt= kx- 100. And, since we are told, at the time this disease began the rabbits had "doubled to 10000", I would take t= 0 at the time the disease began and x(0)= 10000, not 5000.

Solve that equation for x(t). Then, since you are asked for the number of rabbits two years after the outbreak of the disease, and t is in months, find x(24).

do u mean this? i have redo the question...
 

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No, I don't mean either of those. In the last you have the equation dx/dt= kx when I told you that you that the equation should be dx/dt= kx- 100 (with t measured in months). In the first, you start with the equation dx/dt= kx- 100 but then have "dx/dt= (1/5) ln 2(10000)- 100(24)". I don't know where you got that!

Do you know how to solve an equation of the form dx/dt= kx- 100?
 
sorry i may i know how to solve it please? i'd been thinking of this quite long . this is driving me crazy!
 

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