Differential equations stuck trying to integrate 10^-u du

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the integral curve for a given differential equation and includes a discussion on separating the equation and converting exponential expressions to ones with e raised to a power. The final solution given is 10^y = 10^x + c, which does not align with the correct solution of y = x + c1.
  • #1
dooogle
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Homework Statement



trying to find the integral curve for ths equation get stuck at trying to integrate 10^-u
dy/dx=10^x+y

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



let u=x+y
so dy/dx=10^u
du/dx=1+dy/dx
=(10^u)-1=du/dx
du/dx=(10^u)-1
du/10^u=-dxthanks in advance
 
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  • #2
dooogle said:

Homework Statement



trying to find the integral curve for ths equation get stuck at trying to integrate 10^-u
dy/dx=10^x+y
What is the differential equation you're trying to solve?
When you write 10^x + y, I read that as (10^x) + y. Did you mean 10^(x + y)?
dooogle said:

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



let u=x+y
so dy/dx=10^u
How does the line above follow from the previous line? It would be helpful if you included the differential equation you started from, which presumably does not include u.
dooogle said:
du/dx=1+dy/dx
=(10^u)-1=du/dx
du/dx=(10^u)-1
du/10^u=-dx


thanks in advance
 
  • #3
hi the equation i started with was dy/dx=10^(x + y)

dy/dx=10^u
follows
u=x+y
since dy/dx=10^(x + y)

so replacing (x+y) with u gives 10^u

cheers
 
  • #4
This equation is separable, so there is no need for a substitution.
10^(x + y) = 10^x * 10^y. After separation, the equation becomes
10^(-y)dy = 10^x dx

Both exponential expressions can be converted to ones with e raised to a power using this identity: a^b = (e^(ln a))^b = e^(b ln a)
 
  • #5
thanks for the help i have separated the equation as stated getting:

e^-yln 10
= e^xln 10

which when i integrate gives a final solution of

10^y=10^x+c

which leads to y=x+c1 where c1=log10 c

does this sound ok to you

thanks very much for your help
 
  • #6
dooogle said:
thanks for the help i have separated the equation as stated getting:

e^-yln 10
= e^xln 10
Please use parentheses! The left side should be written as e^(-y ln10), and similarly for the right side.
dooogle said:
which when i integrate gives a final solution of

10^y=10^x+c
This isn't what I get.
dooogle said:
which leads to y=x+c1 where c1=log10 c
Even if the equation 10^y = 10^x + c were correct, it doesn't result in y = x + c1.
dooogle said:
does this sound ok to you

thanks very much for your help
 

1. What is a differential equation?

A differential equation is a mathematical equation that relates a function with its derivatives. It describes the relationship between a function and its rate of change.

2. What is integration?

Integration is a mathematical operation that calculates the area under a curve. It is the reverse process of differentiation and is used to find the original function when the derivative is known.

3. What does it mean to be stuck trying to integrate a differential equation?

Being stuck trying to integrate means that the integration process is not straightforward and may require more advanced techniques or methods to solve the equation.

4. How can I solve a differential equation stuck at 10^-u du?

The first step to solving a differential equation is to identify the type of equation it is and then choose an appropriate method for integration. In this case, it may require using substitution or integration by parts to solve for the integral.

5. Are there any tips for solving difficult differential equations?

Some tips for solving difficult differential equations include practicing different integration techniques, breaking the problem into smaller parts, and seeking help from a tutor or online resources. It is also important to have a good understanding of the underlying concepts and principles of differential equations.

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