Differential equations stuck trying to integrate 10^-u du

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral curve for the differential equation dy/dx = 10^(x + y). Participants express difficulty in integrating the term 10^-u and explore the implications of different interpretations of the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to use substitution by letting u = x + y, leading to dy/dx = 10^u. There is a question about the clarity of the original differential equation and whether it was intended as 10^(x + y) or 10^x + y. Some participants suggest that the equation is separable and discuss separating variables as an alternative approach.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, including substitution and separation of variables. Some participants have provided guidance on how to separate the equation, while others express confusion over the integration results and the correctness of the final expressions derived.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of clarity in notation, particularly regarding the use of parentheses in expressions. There are also indications of differing interpretations of the equation, which may affect the discussion's direction.

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Homework Statement



trying to find the integral curve for ths equation get stuck at trying to integrate 10^-u
dy/dx=10^x+y

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



let u=x+y
so dy/dx=10^u
du/dx=1+dy/dx
=(10^u)-1=du/dx
du/dx=(10^u)-1
du/10^u=-dxthanks in advance
 
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dooogle said:

Homework Statement



trying to find the integral curve for ths equation get stuck at trying to integrate 10^-u
dy/dx=10^x+y
What is the differential equation you're trying to solve?
When you write 10^x + y, I read that as (10^x) + y. Did you mean 10^(x + y)?
dooogle said:

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



let u=x+y
so dy/dx=10^u
How does the line above follow from the previous line? It would be helpful if you included the differential equation you started from, which presumably does not include u.
dooogle said:
du/dx=1+dy/dx
=(10^u)-1=du/dx
du/dx=(10^u)-1
du/10^u=-dx


thanks in advance
 
hi the equation i started with was dy/dx=10^(x + y)

dy/dx=10^u
follows
u=x+y
since dy/dx=10^(x + y)

so replacing (x+y) with u gives 10^u

cheers
 
This equation is separable, so there is no need for a substitution.
10^(x + y) = 10^x * 10^y. After separation, the equation becomes
10^(-y)dy = 10^x dx

Both exponential expressions can be converted to ones with e raised to a power using this identity: a^b = (e^(ln a))^b = e^(b ln a)
 
thanks for the help i have separated the equation as stated getting:

e^-yln 10
= e^xln 10

which when i integrate gives a final solution of

10^y=10^x+c

which leads to y=x+c1 where c1=log10 c

does this sound ok to you

thanks very much for your help
 
dooogle said:
thanks for the help i have separated the equation as stated getting:

e^-yln 10
= e^xln 10
Please use parentheses! The left side should be written as e^(-y ln10), and similarly for the right side.
dooogle said:
which when i integrate gives a final solution of

10^y=10^x+c
This isn't what I get.
dooogle said:
which leads to y=x+c1 where c1=log10 c
Even if the equation 10^y = 10^x + c were correct, it doesn't result in y = x + c1.
dooogle said:
does this sound ok to you

thanks very much for your help
 

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