Differential form of Gauss' law: All three terms the same value?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the validity of the differential form of Gauss' law, specifically questioning whether the equation $$\frac{\partial E_i}{\partial x_i}=\frac{\rho}{3\cdot\varepsilon_0}$$ holds true. Participants clarify that while the electric field of a point charge is isotropic, it does not imply that the divergence can be simplified to a third of the total electric field in each coordinate direction. The divergence should be understood through its coordinate-independent definition, emphasizing that the electric field components cannot be separated in such a manner. The conversation highlights the importance of linear algebra and vector analysis in understanding electromagnetism.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Maxwell's equations
  • Familiarity with vector calculus and divergence
  • Knowledge of electric fields, specifically Coulomb's law
  • Basic concepts of linear algebra
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the coordinate-independent definition of divergence in vector calculus
  • Explore the implications of Coulomb's law on electric fields
  • Learn about the properties of dipole fields and their divergence
  • Review linear algebra concepts relevant to electromagnetism
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those studying electromagnetism, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to electric fields and divergence in Maxwell's equations.

greypilgrim
Messages
581
Reaction score
44
Hi.

Is the Maxwell equation
$$\nabla\cdot\vec{E}=\frac{\rho}{\varepsilon_0}$$
even true in the stronger form
$$\frac{\partial E_i}{\partial x_i}=\frac{\rho}{3\cdot\varepsilon_0}\enspace ?$$
I guess not, since I haven't found a source suggesting this. But shouldn't the isotropic electric field of a point charge change the total electric field in all directions by the same amount?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
No, why should that hold? It's better to think about the divergence in terms of its coordinate-independent definition,
$$\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{E}(\vec{x})=\lim_{\Delta V \rightarrow \{\vec{x} \} }\int_{\partial \Delta V} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{f} \cdot \vec{E}.$$
 
My idea was somehow as follows: Since the electric field of a point charge is isotropic and everything is linear, shouldn't it be possible to separate its field into three component fields where every one of those fields only has field vectors in one coordinate direction? And since everything can be thought of as made up by point charges (delta distribution), this would translate to any charge distributions and fields.
 
While you could separate the electric field into components, what you are actually getting from this equation is a scalar that tells you the flux density by volume.
It will be the same regardless of dimension, plus the charge itself can't be separated into vectors as it is a scalar as well. You don't get a third of electric field in each axis, the coordinates share components using trigonometry.

I would suggest going through linear algebra and vector analysis before tackling electromagnetism, I think there is a salad here.
 
Take he Coulomb field as an example,
$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4 \pi} \frac{\vec{x}}{r^3}.$$
Then
$$\partial_x E_x=\frac{q}{4 \pi} \frac{-2x^2+y^2+z^3}{r^5},$$
but
$$\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{E}=0, \quad \vec{x} \neq 0.$$
 
The field of a dipole is not isotropic.
 
The OP was taking about the Coulomb not a dipole field. Of course, also for the dipole field you have ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{E}=0## except at the place of the dipole, where the field is singular.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
714
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
591
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
825
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K