Differential Geometry Problems (2)

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This discussion focuses on solving differential geometry problems using the Frenet formulas, specifically addressing curvature and torsion in the context of generalized helices. The user successfully derived equations for curvature (κ) and torsion (τ) but encountered difficulties in part B of the first problem, where they attempted to prove a derivative equals zero using the Frenet formulas. Additionally, the user expressed uncertainty in applying the theorem related to constant speed space curves for the second problem. The conversation highlights the importance of algebraic manipulation and understanding theorems in differential geometry.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



Frenet Formulas, definitions of curvature, torsion and generalized helix

The Attempt at a Solution



for 1)
I think I got part A down - I had α = λT + µN + νT, took the derivatives and plugged in the Frenet formulas to get:
λ′ − µκ − 1 = 0,
µ′ + λκ + ντ = 0
ν ′ − µτ = 0.
and i solved for τ and κ.

However, I'm having trouble with part B. I assume for part B, I should take the derivative of α = λT + µN + νT again, and use Frenet formulas to prove that this is equal to zero, but the algebra is not working out for me. Could anyone give me some hints or tips?

for 2)
I really don't know how to go about solving this problem; i was thinking of using this theorem

" a constant speed space curve p (t) is a generalized helix if and only if in a suitable orthogonal coordinate system the following holds
p(t)=q(t)+ct e'_3,
where q(t) is a constant speed curve in the x'y'-plane with curvature being nonzero everywhere, and c is a constant. Here e'_3 denotes the unit vector in the z'-direction."

but it doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere.



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