Differential manifold without connection: Is it possible?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of a differential manifold existing without an affine connection, exploring concepts such as non-metricity and non-connectivity. Participants examine the implications of topological anomalies and the conditions under which certain manifolds may or may not admit connections, particularly in the context of differential geometry and applications in engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that every smooth manifold can be given a Riemannian metric, suggesting that under certain conditions, a connection must exist.
  • Others argue that there are manifolds that do not admit a differentiable structure, which would preclude the existence of a connection.
  • A participant inquires about examples of manifolds where a connection cannot be defined, particularly in the context of non-Riemannian descriptions of defects in solids.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions underlying the proofs of connections, particularly regarding paracompactness and the ability to form a partition of unity.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the existence of high-dimensional examples that lack connections.
  • A later reply questions the definition of manifolds, emphasizing that if a space is considered a manifold, it should have compact neighborhoods around each point.
  • References to specific examples of manifolds lacking connections are mentioned, including a ten-dimensional manifold, but understanding of these examples appears limited among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a differential manifold without a connection can exist. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the definitions and properties of manifolds, particularly concerning differentiable structures and topological conditions.

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Limitations include the dependence on definitions of manifolds, particularly regarding paracompactness and differentiable structures, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Readers interested in differential geometry, topology, and applications in engineering, particularly those exploring non-Riemannian geometries and the implications of manifold structures.

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We all are familiar with the kind of differential geometry where some affine connection always exists to relate various tangent spaces distributed over the manifold, and from this connection two fundamental tensors, namely the Cartan's torsion and the Riemann-Christoffel curvature, arise.
Is it possible to have a differential manifold, where due to some topological anomaly, a connection cannot exist?
Of course there exists symplectic manifolds where no connection property is required.
But my question is related to the existence of non-metricity --- as in non-metric case, metric property id there but the connection is not metric. Similarly, can we have some property called non-connectivity where the affine connection is there but somehow it is lacking some fundamental connection requirements?
 
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ayan849 said:
We all are familiar with the kind of differential geometry where some affine connection always exists to relate various tangent spaces distributed over the manifold, and from this connection two fundamental tensors, namely the Cartan's torsion and the Riemann-Christoffel curvature, arise.
Is it possible to have a differential manifold, where due to some topological anomaly, a connection cannot exist?
Of course there exists symplectic manifolds where no connection property is required.
But my question is related to the existence of non-metricity --- as in non-metric case, metric property id there but the connection is not metric. Similarly, can we have some property called non-connectivity where the affine connection is there but somehow it is lacking some fundamental connection requirements?

Every smooth manifold can be given a Riemannian metric. The proof glues local metrics together using a partition of unity. I suppose you need to show that there is an open cover by coordinante charts such that each point of the manifold is contained in only finitely many of the charts.
 
...hence, if by manifold you mean, as differential geometers do, a space which is paracompact (or something stronger like second countability), then every (smooth) manifold admits a Riemannian metric and a connection compatible with it.
 
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quasar987 said:
...hence, if by manifold you mean, as differential geometers do, a space which is paracompact (or something stronger like second countability), then every manifold admits a Riemannian metric and a connection compatible with it.

there are manifolds that do no admit a differentiable structure. These can not have a connection.
 
lavinia said:
there are manifolds that do no admit a differentiable structure. These can not have a connection.

can you give me some examples where we cannot define a connection?
I'm an engineering student. I asked these question regarding non-Riemannian description of defects in solids. In this field, there arises a manifold which is composed of disjoint non-compact parts and you cannot form a compact Euclidean subset from these parts by an unique global diffeomorphism.
 
ayan849 said:
can you give me some examples where we cannot define a connection?
I'm an engineering student. I asked these question regarding non-Riemannian description of defects in solids. In this field, there arises a manifold which is composed of disjoint non-compact parts and you cannot form a compact Euclidean subset from these parts by an unique global diffeomorphism.

examples are difficult to produce and high dimensional - I think.
 
Could you give more information about this manifold? If it's a manifold, every point has a compact neighborhood about it. The proof that every manifold has a connection is based on the assumption that you can form a partition of unity. If your manifold is not paracompact, this fails. However, most definitions of manifold assume this to begin with.
 
zhentil said:
Could you give more information about this manifold? If it's a manifold, every point has a compact neighborhood about it. The proof that every manifold has a connection is based on the assumption that you can form a partition of unity. If your manifold is not paracompact, this fails. However, most definitions of manifold assume this to begin with.

I would be glad to research it. These manifolds do not have differentiable structures so can not have a connection. They are paracompact though - in fact compact.
 
zhentil said:
Could you give more information about this manifold? If it's a manifold, every point has a compact neighborhood about it. The proof that every manifold has a connection is based on the assumption that you can form a partition of unity. If your manifold is not paracompact, this fails. However, most definitions of manifold assume this to begin with.

http://www.math.rochester.edu/u/faculty/doug/otherpapers/kervaire_AMSRev.pdf

I am told that this is the first example ever discovered. It is a ten dimensional manifold. I do not understand the paper but would be willing to read it through with you.
 
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many thanks for the discussion.
 

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