A Confusion on notion of connection & covariant derivative

  • #31
andrewkirk said:
It can be expressed as a quotient that has almost exactly the same form as the usual definitions of derivatives, using the concepts of post 2, as follows:

Let ##\mathscr{T}(M)## be the set of all smooth vector fields on manifold ##M##.
Given a connection ##\nabla:TM\times\mathscr{T}(M)\to TM##,

What definition of connection are you using?

the covariant derivative of a smooth vector field ##V:M\to TM## at point ##p\in M##, with respect to vector ##X\in T_pM## is a vector in ##T_pM## whose value is:

$$\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{V_{(X)}(h)-V_{(X)}(0)}{h}$$

where ##V_{(X)}(h)## is defined to be the result of parallel transporting ##V(\gamma_{X}(h))## along ##\gamma_{X}## to ##p## and ##\gamma_{X}## is the geodesic that passes through through ##p## with velocity ##X##.

If you take the limit $$\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{V_{(X)}(h)-V_{(X)}(0)}{h}$$ along a curve that is not a geodesic, is it the same as taking it along a geodesic?

Parallel transport is defined by the connection, as one would expect from the name: it connects a vector in one tangent space to an equivalent - parallel transported - vector in another tangent space that is a little way along a curve.

Which definition of parallel transport are you using?
 
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  • #32
"Don't panic!" said:
? Shouldn't it be a map of the form ##T_{p}M\times\mathcal{X}(M)\rightarrow T_{p}M##, or is the point that we choose a vector field evaluated at a particular point ##p\in M## and the take its derivative along the direction of another vector field at that point (i.e. along the integral curve of a vector field passing through that point) assuming a Levi-Civita connection?

Yes. In fact one only needs to know the vector field along a curve fitting ##X_{p}##. Any curve will do. One can even define the notion of a vector field along a curve.

The reason vector fields are used in the definition of an affine connection is that if ##X## and ##Y## are smooth vector fields then the set of all covariant derivatives ##∇_{X_{p}}Y## over all points ##p## is required to be itself a smooth vector field. This is true for any connection not just a Levi-Civita connection.

A Levi-Civita connection is a special connection that is defined to have additional properties that a general connection does not. These are compatibility with the metric and torsion free. A general connection may not be torsion free and it may not be compatible with a metric. In fact, there may be no metric on the manifold.
 
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  • #33
lavinia said:
One can even define the notion of a vector field along a curve.

How does one do this?

lavinia said:
Yes. In fact one only needs to know the vector field along a curve fitting XpXpX_{p}.

By this do you mean that the curve just needs to be in the equivalence class of curves defining the tangent vector ##X_{p}## at ##p\in M##?

So is the axiomatic definition of the connection constructed to capture the defining properties required for a well-defined notion of taking a derivative of a vector at a point, i.e. that the image should be another vector field over ##M## (so that taking a derivative of a vector doesn't result in an object that isn't tangent to the manifold), and to guarantee that it is a derivative operator it should satisfy the properties of linearity and the Leibniz rule. Then one can naturally define a notion of covariant differentiation and parallel transport after applying such a defined operator to vector fields?
 
  • #34
"Don't panic!" said:
How does one do this?
By this do you mean that the curve just needs to be in the equivalence class of curves defining the tangent vector ##X_{p}## at ##p\in M##?

So is the axiomatic definition of the connection constructed to capture the defining properties required for a well-defined notion of taking a derivative of a vector at a point, i.e. that the image should be another vector field over ##M## (so that taking a derivative of a vector doesn't result in an object that isn't tangent to the manifold), and to guarantee that it is a derivative operator it should satisfy the properties of linearity and the Leibniz rule. Then one can naturally define a notion of covariant differentiation and parallel transport after applying such a defined operator to vector fields?

Think through the definition of an affine connection. Think through the example of a surface in 3 space.
 
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  • #36
lavinia said:
What definition of connection are you using?
I had in mind the definition used by John Lee in his 'Riemannian Manifolds'. That is that a connection is a function ##\nabla:TM\times\mathscr{T}(M)\to TM## for which ##\nabla(X,V)\equiv \nabla_XV## is in the same tangent space as ##X##, and that satisfies the three linearity conditions:

(1) ##\nabla_{fX_1+gX_2}Y=f\nabla_{X_1}Y+g\nabla_{X_2}Y## for ##f,g\in C^\infty(M)##.
(2) ##\nabla_X(aY_1+bY_2)=a\nabla_XY_1+b\nabla_XY_2## for ##a,b\in\mathbb{R}##
(3) ##\nabla_X(fY)=f\nabla_XY+(Xf)Y## for ##f\in C^\infty(M)##

In (3) ##Xf## denotes is the derivative of scalar function ##f## in direction ##X## which I think is OK to use because - as ##f## is a scalar function - it can be defined without using the connection.

Which definition of parallel transport are you using?
Given a curve ##\gamma## that passes through ##p\in M##, the parallel transport ##U_{(V,\gamma)}## of a vector ##V\in T_pM## along ##\gamma## is a (I think, unique) vector field on the image of ##\gamma## that satisfies:

(a) ##\nabla_{\dot{\gamma}(s)}(U_{(V,\gamma)}(\gamma(s))=0## for all ##s## in the domain of ##\gamma##
(b) ##U_{(V,\gamma)}(p)=V##

There's one thing that bothers me here, which is that the second argument to the map ##\nabla## in (a) is a vector field on image ##\gamma##, whereas ##\nabla## requires it to be a vector field on an open subset of ##M##. I have a construction in mind that I think could probably make that robust in a small neighbourhood of ##p##, but I haven't had time to think it through fully yet, let alone to code it up here.
 
  • #37
andrewkirk said:
There's one thing that bothers me here, which is that the second argument to the map ##\nabla## in (a) is a vector field on image ##\gamma##, whereas ##\nabla## requires it to be a vector field on an open subset of ##M##. I have a construction in mind that I think could probably make that robust in a small neighbourhood of ##p##, but I haven't had time to think it through fully yet, let alone to code it up here.

You are right to catch this. One can separately define what a vector field along a curve is and then the covariant derivative of a vector field along a curve.

A vector field along a curve is an assignment of a tangent vector,##V_{c(t)}##, to each point ##c(t)## on the curve such that for any smooth function ##f##, the function ##V_{c(t)}.f## is a smooth function on the domain of definition of ##c##.

- It seems to me that this could be extended to an arbitrary vector bundle by saying that the assignment ##t \rightarrow c(t) \rightarrow V_{c(t)}## is a smooth map from the reals into the vector bundle.

Then given an affine connection on the manifold, one defines a covariant derivative of a vector field along a curve by demanding linearity and the Leibniz rule plus if ##V_{c(t)}## is the restriction of a vector field to the curve then the covariant derivative along the curve is the same as the covariant derivative of the affine connection. One then shows existence and uniqueness.
 
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  • #38
A caveat: the curve must be a regular submanifold to inherit a vector field and a covariant derivative operator from the base manifold's tangent bundle. For example, you can't project the directional derivative on ##\mathbb{R^{2}}## onto a figure eight curve. You can get the directional derivative by parametrizing the figure eight path in polar, but from ##\mathbb{R^{2}}##'s point of view, the directional derivative of any field is undefined at the point of intersection (it's a singular point).
 
  • #39
Twigg said:
A caveat: the curve must be a regular submanifold to inherit a vector field and a covariant derivative operator from the base manifold's tangent bundle. For example, you can't project the directional derivative on ##\mathbb{R^{2}}## onto a figure eight curve. You can get the directional derivative by parametrizing the figure eight path in polar, but from ##\mathbb{R^{2}}##'s point of view, the directional derivative of any field is undefined at the point of intersection (it's a singular point).

True but if the vector field lines up with itself as the curve reaches an intersection point you would be OK. The definition only requires that for any smooth function ##f## the map ##t \rightarrow V_{c(t)}.f(c(t)## is a smooth function from an interval of real numbers into the real numbers. So the curve does not need to be an embedded submanifold.
 
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  • #40
Thinking about connections more generallyGiven two vector fields, ##X## and ##Y## the covariant derivative gives a new vector field ##∇_{X}Y## . For fixed ##Y##, the map ##X \rightarrow ∇_{X}Y## is linear in ##X##. That is: ##∇_{X+Z}Y = ∇_{X}Y + ∇_{Z}Y## and for any smooth function ##f##, ##∇_{fX}Y = f∇_{X}Y##. This means that one can think of ##∇## as a linear map from sections of the tangent bundle (vector fields) into sections of the tensor bundle ##TM^{*}⊗TM## where ##TM^{*}## is the dual of the tangent bundle i.e. the bundle whose sections are smooth 1 forms on the manifold ##M##. So ##∇## is an operator on vector fields, ## s \rightarrow ∇s## where ##∇s## is a section of ##TM^{*}⊗TM##.

In this context the Leibniz rule is ## ∇fs \rightarrow df⊗s + f∇s##.

If one thinks about it, ##s## does not need to be a section of the tangent bundle. It could be a section of any smooth vector bundle. The definition works in exactly the same way. So now one has the idea of a connection on an arbitrary smooth vector bundle. ##∇## maps sections of the vector bundle ##ζ## into sections of ##TM^{*}⊗ζ##. It is linear over the base field and satisfies the Leibniz rule. BTW: the base field is the complex numbers when ##ζ## is a complex vector bundle.

If ##s_{i}## is a basis of vector fields on an open domain then ##∇s_{i} = ∑_{j}ω_{ij}⊗s_{j}## and the ##ω_{ij}## are the connection 1 forms with respect to this basis.
 
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  • #41
lavinia said:
In this context the Leibniz rule is ## ∇fs \rightarrow df⊗s + f∇s##.

If one thinks about it, ##s## does not need to be a section of the tangent bundle. It could be a section of any smooth vector bundle. The definition works in exactly the same way. So now one has the idea of a connection on an arbitrary smooth vector bundle. ##∇## maps sections of the vector bundle ##ζ## into sections of ##TM^{*}⊗ζ##. It is linear over the base field and satisfies the Leibniz rule. BTW: the base field is the complex numbers when ##ζ## is a complex vector bundle.

This is something that took me a while to appreciate. It is tempting to generalize the above Leibniz rule to tensor products:

$$\nabla (X \otimes Y) = (\nabla X) \otimes Y + X \otimes (\nabla Y),$$
but this is not quite correct. One must instead take ##TM \otimes TM## to be the vector bundle ##\zeta## in question, and the connection to act on this bundle in the appropriate tensor product representation. In effect, the "new" factor of ##T^*M## must always appear in front: ##T^*M \otimes \zeta##; rather than in the middle as it might appear from the second term in my attempted "tensor product rule".

One can write down product rules like mine above, if one also makes the mental note that the new factor of ##T^*M## always goes at the front. Alternatively, one can always work with a vector field already stuck into this slot:

$$\nabla_Z (X \otimes Y) = (\nabla_Z X) \otimes Y + X \otimes (\nabla_Z Y),$$
which is always true.

If ##s_{i}## is a basis of vector fields on an open domain then ##∇s_{i} = ∑_{j}ω_{ij}⊗s_{j}## and the ##ω_{ij}## are the connection 1 forms with respect to this basis.

In light of your previous paragraph, of course ##s_i## should be a basis of the vector bundle ##\zeta##, which may not be "vector fields", per se.

(I think at this point we may have thoroughly confused the OP, though!)
 
  • #42
Ben Niehoff said:
(I think at this point we may have thoroughly confused the OP, though!)

Yes, a little bit! Although it has been interesting to read the conversation and try and understand the information.
I have to say, I thought I understood the meaning of the covariant derivative and connection before I started studying differential geometry in more depth, but I now feel that I don't really at all :/
 
  • #43
"Don't panic!" said:
Yes, a little bit! Although it has been interesting to read the conversation and try and understand the information.
I have to say, I thought I understood the meaning of the covariant derivative and connection before I started studying differential geometry in more depth, but I now feel that I don't really at all :/

A lot if this came from your questions about the Leibniz rule. I hope it helps to see how far these ideas can go. IMO It is good to be swamped sometimes.

BTW: This general definition of connection can also be used to define curvature. Curvature makes sense for connections on arbitrary smooth vector bundles.
 
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