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The discussion revolves around finding the differential of the expression \( ax^b \), with participants exploring the relationship between differentials and derivatives in the context of calculus.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to start finding the differential and question the terminology used, wondering if "differential" was intended to mean "derivative." Some share their attempts at understanding the problem and seek feedback on their work.

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There is a productive exchange where some participants clarify the process of differentiation, suggesting the use of logarithmic differentiation and the chain rule. Others provide insights into the potential confusion between the terms "differential" and "derivative," indicating a shared understanding of the concepts involved.

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Some participants note difficulties in reading shared attempts, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. There is also mention of possible language issues that could lead to misunderstandings about the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


Find the differential of axb

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The Attempt at a Solution


Really not sure where to start, honestly. Thanks in advance :)
 
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ninjaduck said:

Homework Statement


Find the differential of axb

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Really not sure where to start, honestly. Thanks in advance :)
Show some effort at understanding the problem.

How does a person find a differential?
 
SammyS said:
Show some effort at understanding the problem.

How does a person find a differential?

In the picture is what I have so far.
Not sure if correct or not.
 

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ninjaduck said:
In the picture is what I have so far.
Not sure if correct or not.
That's pretty difficult to read.

It looks like you let ##\displaystyle\ y=a^{\displaystyle x^b}\,,\ ## then found the derivative, ##\displaystyle\ \frac{dy}{dx}\ ##.

So, now to get the differential.
 
SammyS said:
That's pretty difficult to read.

It looks like you let ##\displaystyle\ y=a^{\displaystyle x^b}\,,\ ## then found the derivative, ##\displaystyle\ \frac{dy}{dx}\ ##.

So, now to get the differential.

Perhaps he/she was being asked to find the derivative, but due to a language issue it came out as "differential".
 
As I also thought they are similar (derivative and differential), or maybe I'm wrong...?
ninjaduck said:
In the picture is what I have so far.
Not sure if correct or not.
It seems correct and I have a suggestion that you can differentiate on ##x## instead of ##y## while the process is similar (just a little easy).
 
tommyxu3 said:
As I also thought they are similar (derivative and differential), or maybe I'm wrong...?

It seems correct and I have a suggestion that you can differentiate on ##x## instead of ##y## while the process is similar (just a little easy).
Yes. That's an excellent point!

When ninjaduck did implicit differentiation, he took the derivative with respect to y, rather than the customary method of taking the derivative with respect to x .
 
Yes, if [itex]y= a^{x^b}[/itex] then [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}= ba^{x^b}ln(a)x^{b- 1}[/itex].

You used "logarithmic differentiation". If you do that with just [itex]y= a^x[/itex] then [itex]ln(y)= x ln(a)[/itex] so that [itex]y'/y= ln(a)[/itex], [itex]y'= y ln(a)= ln(a) a^x[/itex]. I find it simpler to use that generally.

Here, we use the chain rule with [itex]u(x)= x^b[/itex] so that [itex]y= a^u[/itex]. Then [itex]y'= ln(a) a^u (u')[/itex]. Since [itex]u= x^b[/itex], [itex]u'= bx^{b- 1}[/itex]. Putting those together, the derivative of [itex]y= a^{x^b}[/itex] is [itex]dy/dx= ln(a)\left(a^{x^b}\right)\left(bx^{b-1}\right)[/itex], just what you have.
 

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