Differentiating y=2x√4-2x³ - Dan

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y = 2x√(4 - 2x³), focusing on the methods and approaches used in calculus, particularly the product and chain rules.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the product rule and chain rule for differentiation. Some explore alternative methods, such as rewriting the function or using logarithmic differentiation, to simplify the process. Questions arise about the efficiency of these approaches.

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There is a mix of agreement on the correctness of the original differentiation method. Some participants suggest alternative approaches that may simplify the differentiation process, while others express caution about potential pitfalls in those methods.

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Participants mention the possibility of using logarithmic differentiation and the implications of rewriting the function for clarity. There is also a note about the potential loss of sign when simplifying the expression.

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Hey. If i have:
[tex] y = 2x\sqrt {4 - 2x^3 } [/tex]

To differentiate it, i used the product rule, but used the chain rule to differentiate the [itex]\sqrt {4 - 2x^3}[/itex] part. I got the answer right, but was just wondering, is there a quicker way of doing it? Or have i gone about it the right way?

Thanks,
Dan.
 
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You've done it the right way :smile:
 
As far as I know there is no othere way (execept if you use a computer). And it really isn't that long either.

PS Somethimes it's easier if you differentiate using logoritems (especially if there's a lot of multiplication involved).
 
danago said:
Hey. If i have:
[tex] y = 2x\sqrt {4 - 2x^3 } [/tex]

To differentiate it, i used the product rule, but used the chain rule to differentiate the [itex]\sqrt {4 - 2x^3}[/itex] part. I got the answer right, but was just wondering, is there a quicker way of doing it? Or have i gone about it the right way?

Thanks,
Dan.
I'm not sure what you would consider 'quicker' but writing this as
[tex]y= 2x(4- 2x^3)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]
at least makes the derivative a bit clearer.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I'm not sure what you would consider 'quicker' but writing this as
[tex]y= 2x(4- 2x^3)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]
at least makes the derivative a bit clearer.

Yea that's what i did. Then i said that [tex]f(x)=2x[/tex] and [tex]g(x)=(4- 2x^3)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]. I then differentiated g(x) with the chain rule, then once i found that, i used the product rule to find the final derivative.
 
Or you could do some algebra and throw the 2x into the square root before doing any calculus operations, which removes the need for the product rule.

[tex]y = 2x \sqrt{4-2x^3} = \sqrt{4x^2 (4-2x^3)}[/tex]
 
The above however doesn't work well, because you lose the sign.

Another potential way to simplify might be to take logarithm and differentiate that, but you have to be careful there.
 
mezarashi said:
Or you could do some algebra and throw the 2x into the square root before doing any calculus operations, which removes the need for the product rule.

[tex]y = 2x \sqrt{4-2x^3} = \sqrt{4x^2 (4-2x^3)}[/tex]

I never thought of doing it like that :rolleyes:

Thanks for the replies everyone.
 

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