Differentiation from first principles

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y = √(a² - x²) from first principles. Participants are exploring the concept of differentiation and the application of limits in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the limit definition of the derivative but struggles with manipulating the resulting expression. Some participants question the variables involved, particularly whether a and b are constants or variables, and clarify the function's form. Others suggest methods for simplifying the expression, such as using the sum of square roots.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on notation and manipulation techniques. There is a recognition of the need for clarification regarding the variables involved, and some productive suggestions have been made to assist in the differentiation process.

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There is a mention of potential confusion due to a typo in the function's expression, which initially led to a misunderstanding of the variables. The discussion also touches on the use of LaTeX for mathematical notation.

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Hey guys, I've got the following 2 mark question on a problem sheet, but I can't seem able to do it. I'd appreciate any help, thanks.

Differentiate, from first principles, the following:

y=\sqrt(a^2-x^2)

I know I have to take the limit as δx tends to 0 of [(f(x+δx)- f(x)]/δx but can't seem to manipulate the resultant expression in any way to get closer to an answer. I have never used this Latex thingy before, so hopefully it comes out OK.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Electrifying said:
Hey guys, I've got the following 2 mark question on a problem sheet, but I can't seem able to do it. I'd appreciate any help, thanks.

Differentiate, from first principles, the following:

y=\sqrt(a^2-b^2)

I know I have to take the limit as δx tends to 0 of [(f(x+δx)- f(x)]/δx but can't seem to manipulate the resultant expression in any way to get closer to an answer. I have never used this Latex thingy before, so hopefully it comes out OK.
There is no x in the formula for your function. Are a and b constants or are they variables? If a and b are constants, then the graph of your function is a horizontal line, making the derivative zero.
 
Mark44 said:
There is no x in the formula for your function. Are a and b constants or are they variables? If a and b are constants, then the graph of your function is a horizontal line, making the derivative zero.

Sorry, just a typo, b^2 should be x^2.

But a is just a constant yes.
 
As for Latex thingies, use curly brackets{} for the argument of the square root.

y=\sqrt{a^2-x^2}

It is a good method to eliminate difference of square roots by multiplying and dividing with the sum of the same square roots.
Write up the the expression (f(x+δx)-f(x))/δx with the square roots and you will see what I mean. ehild
 
Thank you very much for that, my final answer of

\frac{dy}{dx} =-\frac{x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}

Agrees with the answer obtained if you just differentiate 'normally'. Thanks again!
 

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