Differentiation involving Sin(x) as a power

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y=(x^2)^sin(x) using the chain rule. Participants are exploring differentiation techniques in the context of calculus, particularly focusing on functions involving exponentiation and trigonometric components.

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  • Participants discuss various methods to apply the chain rule, including using substitutions and logarithmic differentiation. Some express confusion about how to correctly apply the chain rule in this context, while others suggest alternative approaches, such as rewriting the function or using the product rule.

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There are multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem, with some participants suggesting the use of logarithms to simplify the differentiation process. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to express variables correctly and the potential for using different differentiation techniques, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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Some participants indicate uncertainty about the independence of variables and the proper application of differentiation rules, highlighting the complexity of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Find the derivative of y=(x^2)^sinx; using the chain rule.


Homework Equations



No other relevant equations.


The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to apply the Chain rule: dy/dx = dy/du X du/dx
Subbing u for x^2, which made y = u^sinx

I ended up with du/dx = 2x;

and dy/du = ln(u)*cos(x)*(U)^sinx

I know this isn't right, and all I've spent the past hour doing is confusing myself. I've searched my textbook, and online, and can't find anyting (that I understand) to help me.
To be honest, I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to apply the chain rule

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
 
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The problem with the way you have attempted it is that when you computed dy/du you did not write y entirely in terms of u, you left it in terms of u and x, but u and x are not independent. This is why your calculation isn't working you. You should replace x with ##\sqrt{u}## to do it properly.

There is a slightly easier way to do this, as well. Note that you can write

##x^2 = e^{\ln (x^2)} = e^{2\ln |x|}.##

Then, recall that ##(a^b)^c = a^{bc}## for real numbers a, b and c. This will give you a form that is easier to differentiate. (You'll want to use a different chain rule substitution, though).
 
Bananarama said:

Homework Statement



Find the derivative of y=(x^2)^sinx; using the chain rule.

Homework Equations



No other relevant equations.

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to apply the Chain rule: dy/dx = dy/du X du/dx
Subbing u for x^2, which made y = u^sinx

I ended up with du/dx = 2x;

and dy/du = ln(u)*cos(x)*(U)^sinx

I know this isn't right, and all I've spent the past hour doing is confusing myself. I've searched my textbook, and online, and can't find anyting (that I understand) to help me.
To be honest, I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to apply the chain rule

Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
I can see a couple of ways to do this with the chain rule. One uses the multi-variable chain rule. The other require rewrite the function.

Multi-variable chain rule:
Let u(x)= x2 and v(x) = sin(x)

Then [itex]y=f(x,\,y)=u^v\,.[/itex]

Then use [itex]\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\partial y}{\partial u}\frac{du}{dx}+\frac{\partial y}{\partial v}\frac{dv}{dx}\ .[/itex]

The single variable method:
[itex]\displaystyle y=(x^2)^{\sin(x)}=e^{2\ln(x)\sin(x)}\ .[/itex]

Now apply the chain rule. You will also need the product rule.​
 
Simpler, I think, than writing [itex]f(x)^{g(x)}[/itex] as [itex]e^{g(x)ln(f(x))}[/itex] is to start with [itex]y(x)= f(x)^{g(x)}[/itex] and take the logarithm of both sides: ln(y)= g(x)ln(f(x)).

Here, the function is [itex]y(x)= (x^2)^{sin(x)}= x^{2sin(x)}[/itex]. Then [itex]ln(y)= 2sin(x) ln(x)[/itex]. Then you can use the product rule to differentiate the right side using the product rule. Of course, the derivative of ln(y), on the left, is (1/y)dy/dx. After taking the derivative of both sides multiply through by [itex]y= (x^2)^{sin(x)}[/itex] to find dy/dx.
 

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