Differentiation with respect to a function

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The discussion revolves around differentiation with respect to a function, specifically the expression \(\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}\) and its implications in calculus. Participants are exploring the relationships between derivatives and questioning the validity of certain assumptions in the context of derivatives.

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  • Participants are examining the expression for the derivative \(\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}\) and its relationship to the derivatives of \(f\) and \(g\). There are attempts to clarify the notation and definitions involved in differentiation.

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Some participants have affirmed the original poster's assumptions and provided additional insights, while others have noted potential issues with terminology and the application of the concept to higher derivatives. The discussion appears to be ongoing with multiple perspectives being considered.

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There is a mention of the limitations of the discussed approach when it comes to higher derivatives, indicating that the conversation is exploring the nuances of differentiation.

Gabriel Maia
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Hi. A very long problem brought me to a derivative in the form

\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}


I'm assuming that

\mathrm{d}g(x)=\left(\frac{\mathrm{d}g(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}\right)\mathrm{d}x

So, is it correct to say that

\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}=\left(\frac{\mathrm{d}g(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}\right)^{-1}\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}?

Thank you
 
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Yes.
(P.S. I don't think "derivating" is a word.....)
 
certainly said:
Yes.
(P.S. I don't think "derivating" is a word.....)

differentiation, perhaps?

Thank you very much.
 
Your welcome.
It is interesting to note that this does not work with higher derivatives...
[EDIT:- so ##d^2g(x)\neq \Big(\frac{d^2g(x)}{dx^2}\Big) dx^2##]
 
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Gabriel Maia said:
Hi. A very long problem brought me to a derivative in the form

\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}


I'm assuming that

\mathrm{d}g(x)=\left(\frac{\mathrm{d}g(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}\right)\mathrm{d}x

So, is it correct to say that

\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}g(x)}=\left(\frac{\mathrm{d}g(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}\right)^{-1}\frac{\mathrm{d}f(x)}{\mathrm{d}x}?

Thank you
We have
\frac{d\, f(x)}{d\, g(x)} = \lim_{\Delta g(x) \to 0} \frac{ \Delta f(x)}{\Delta g(x)},
where
\Delta f(x) = f(x + \Delta x) - f(x) \doteq f&#039;(x) \Delta x, \\<br /> \Delta g(x) = g(x + \Delta x) - g(x) \doteq g&#039;(x) \Delta x,
hence
\frac{d f(x)} {d g(x)} = \frac{f&#039;(x)}{g&#039;(x)}
This is equivalent to what you wrote.
 

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