Difficulty in analyzing automotive tire in workbench

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the challenges of modeling and simulating the effects of pressure on automotive tires using ANSYS Workbench. Participants explore issues related to material properties, solver settings, and convergence problems in the context of finite element analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to model tire pressure effects using a Mooney-Rivlin material model but encounters convergence issues.
  • Some participants suggest that the non-linear behavior of the material requires a non-linear solver and an appropriate number of substeps for the analysis.
  • Another participant reports that increasing the number of substeps and refining the mesh did not resolve the convergence problem.
  • Participants discuss the importance of boundary conditions and whether the model is fully constrained, with some questioning the application of contact conditions.
  • There is a suggestion to apply pressure gradually through load steps, as oscillation in the convergence curve may indicate instability in the model.
  • One participant proposes simplifying the model or using a lower pressure to achieve convergence, noting that the maximum pressure applied may not be suitable for a rubber-only model.
  • Discussion includes the complexity of tire construction, with some participants highlighting the need to consider steel reinforcements in the model.
  • A later reply indicates that reducing the pressure significantly allowed the solver to converge, suggesting that the initial pressure was too high for the simplified model.
  • Another participant raises a new issue regarding the application of contact conditions between the tire and a surface, seeking advice on convergence problems with this setup.
  • Participants provide various tips for improving mesh density, contact conditions, and solver settings to enhance convergence in simulations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the non-linear nature of the material and the solver settings are critical to achieving convergence. However, there are multiple competing views on the best approach to resolve the issues, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal modeling strategy.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential oversimplification of the tire model by not incorporating steel reinforcements and the dependence on specific solver settings and material properties that may not be fully defined.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in finite element analysis, automotive engineering, and material modeling may find this discussion relevant, particularly those facing similar challenges in simulation convergence.

  • #31
Well it depends on what conditions you want to analyze it under. You need to consider things like angular speed (centripetal acceleration), applied torque, and load it's supporting. You're going to have to decide how you want to approximate ground moving by as well.
 

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